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OBI-JUAN2002
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You may use these images, make multimedia or video presentations from them or use them in printed pieces as long as you are not duplicating or selling the images as an entire product unto themselves
As long as you modify them a bit or add something else you can always publish them for non-commercial purpouses.
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3rdaxis
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Who am I to argue with that?? 
Seriously, these clips are wonderful and I hope to be making a few of my own.
Not only am I interested in the fiery explosions (engulfing an unfortunate ship or planet), but also in the surface explosions that can be used to demonstrate missiles hitting hulls, etc (especially in atmospheric battles).
My question, open to all:
I’m relatively new to compositing and was wondering if Premiere or After Effects is the better program. Also, what background color is best for compositing (e.g black for explosions, green/blue for ships)
I was thinking after rendering components with correct background colors in Max (3), I could use After Effects to assemble the composition (although I really am not clear on the animating layers bit). Premiere could then piece together shots in order and do wipes, etc.
Any advise would be of great help.
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RocketGirl
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6/27/02 9:10am
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Half a mo'... if what I'm gleaning from this is accurate, you folks composite your explosions into the shot in post?
I suppose that's one way to do it, but I've found that my life is a lot easier if I simply map the explosion onto a plane in MAX, set the material to additive (which eliminates the need to do any chromakeying or alpha, and makes the explosion glow rather nicely as well), set the camera as the plane's LookAt object, and Bob's your uncle. No need for any rendering of the elements of the shot more than once or compositing... Simple and sweet.
*shrug* Just a suggestion, tho...
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3rdaxis
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6/27/02 9:22am
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A question, though.
I've never been too clear on the definitive definition of "additive" material.
Care to elaborate on what it does and how it works? (Does it only work with a black BG for example).
Thanks.
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Oh, joy...color theory. 
Okay, lesse...to understand it, you need to know a little bit of color theory. Mixing colors together is a great way to produce new colors--everybody knows that tellow and blue make green, red and yellow make orange, and so on--but the way colors react to each other differs greatly depending on how the colors are being mixed.
For example, light is an additive color system. The more colors you have, the closer your end result gets to white. Pure white, in an additive color system, contains every color. With a subtractive color system, all the colors together is the opposite, it's black.
So, essentially, a translucent object that is additive will add its colors to anything behind it. This is easiest explained numerically:
Black is represented, in RGB, as 0,0,0. Black, on an additive object, adds absolutely nothing to the colors behind it, and so those colors appear exactly as they are.
Take, on the other hand, brown. Say we have RGB values of 181, 131, 91, and behind it we have blue and yellow, RGB values 0,144,255 and 255,216,0 respectively. The additive brown object is placed so that it overlaps the blue and the yellow. Because it is additive, it adds it's RGB values to the colors behind it, so the yellow (255,216,0) added to the brown (181,131,91) equals 436, 347, 91. But because color on a computer usually maxes out at 255, that means our resulting color would be 255, 255, 91, which is actually just a lighter yellow. The blue, OTOH, comes out to 181, 255, 255, which is a much lighter blue.
Here is an example of the different color types using a lens flare mapped onto a flat piece of geometry, all set to 99% opacity. A is normal, and only tints the background. B is additive, and looks kind of glowy. C is subtractive, and doesn't look like much, unfortunately for this example.
I hope that helps. (For the record, the example is taken from a tutorial website I'm building for MAX. It's under heavy construction, but you can look it over, if you like...
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Its good you post your questions (and answers) but as they are turning to a completely different subject..., lets just make sure this topics stays in posting and commenting on explosion clips!
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Well, this question (and answer) grew out of the explosion question. I, personally, put my explosions directly into MAX as bitmapped planes...which are set to Additive. It all fits in.
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Yeah, that question was OK, but I feared that it would drive the topic into another subject (as I myself I am doing right now!  )... anyway. I'll try to key out the black instead of transfering on screen mode with Mister-x Explosion...
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3rdaxis
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My bad. Didn't mean to drive an off-topic subject. At least it wasn't waaaay off: a question about using the explosion clips
Anyhoo... I am now trying to make the explosion clips... I hope they turn out ok.
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how about smoke effects?
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Well, I've been avoiding smoke because there is usually no smoke in space but I suppose it deserves a mention. I'll be looking for some clips.
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I've been trying these two explosion tutorials for max, and they seem very good for still images but I am not sure how they can be animated.
www.scifi-meshes.com/tutorials/Monty/monty.html
www.scifi-meshes.com/tutorials/SFA/Explosion.htm
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Wow, there were lots of posts this weekend! This thread fell from first to fifth page in two days!
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RocketGirl
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Well, by the end of the week, I should have my DSL up at home so I can post some of my own personally-made explosions made in MAX. Till then, well...I'll just have to look at everybody else's.
They'll be in AVI format (QuickTime...ewwwwww)
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