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Author Topic: Landing platform: Terragen + MAX R4, what do you think?
Carl_el_cee 
Registered: Jun '02
Date Posted: 7/18/02 5:34am Subject: Landing platform: Terragen + MAX R4, what do you think?
Well I just got my hands on Terragen last night. A "big merci" beaucoup to Jedibyknight grin . Terragen is a great program. A shame you can't animate anything... Its great for still anyway, and then rendere is SO weird if you're used to a scanline renderer like that of MAX. The platform took about 7 seconds to render and the Landscape took 3 minutes. I composited it all in MAX R4.



What do you guys think?

Carl

 

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Shoveler 
Registered: Mar '01
Date Posted: 7/18/02 5:38am Subject: RE: Landing platform: Terragen + MAX R4, what do you think?
Hmmm looks pretty darn sweet but I reckon you should try making the cliffs behind the station a bit darker, they seem a little bright and make the station look unrealistic. But it looks pretty sweet! grin

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Carl_el_cee 
Registered: Jun '02
Date Posted: 7/18/02 5:49am Subject: RE: Landing platform: Terragen + MAX R4, what do you think?
There can only be one Sun, according to what I've seen so far. But I guess it wouldn't kill the whole pic to have the cliffs on the left dark, and the ones on the right light... *sigh* that means going into MAX again and redoing the lighting also. Ah well, to make something better, you gotta do this type of shyte.
Thanks for pointing that out, glad you like it happy

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Ptx 
Registered: Jun '00
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Date Posted: 7/18/02 5:53am Subject: RE: Landing platform: Terragen + MAX R4, what do you think?
Terragen can animate!

In my travesl I have come accross lots of free plug ins for 3dMax, so have a search to see if they can help you.

I had to pay for my Lightwave plug-in sad

If you don't want to go this route, or if you can't find anything suiable there is a program called 'Campath' which is a great little tool for animations.

Go to www.planetside.co.uk for Campath, this site is the home of Terragen and is a good place to start looking for things you need. There is one fantastic resource site around, but I am not in front of my home PC right now. I will post the link to this site later today.

If you have a plug-in you will be better able to match elements for the composite, but if not, you will be surprised at how much you can accomplish with the two separate apps.

Let me know if you need any help.

Pete

 

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Shoveler 
Registered: Mar '01
Date Posted: 7/18/02 5:56am Subject: RE: Landing platform: Terragen + MAX R4, what do you think?
Actually I think the ones on the right look good, I reckon you should leave them the way they are. It just looks a little funny that's all, the left ones, IMO, are too bright and as a result the station just doesn't look like it belongs. Know what I mean. And yeah I do like it grin

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Registered: Feb '02
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Date Posted: 7/18/02 6:18am Subject: RE: Landing platform: Terragen + MAX R4, what do you think?
Hey,
That looks really good! Just wonderin though, can Terragen work on a Mac? I've been to the site and can only find it to dl for Windows.
Thanks

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Jedi_Cougar 
Registered: Nov '01
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Date Posted: 7/18/02 6:33am Subject: RE: Landing platform: Terragen + MAX R4, what do you think?
Yeah, Terragen can animate.

It takes all the still pictures along the camera's path then you use something to turn the bmp files into an avi.

Simple as that.

 

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Carl_el_cee 
Registered: Jun '02
Date Posted: 7/18/02 6:42am Subject: RE: Landing platform: Terragen + MAX R4, what do you think?
Ooh! How do I animate the camera then? grin

Carl

 

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Sauja-Dupen 
Registered: Aug '99
Date Posted: 7/18/02 6:44am Subject: RE: Landing platform: Terragen + MAX R4, what do you think?
¡Muy bien! wink

I think the lighting is fine, I think the sharpness is the problem. The right and center background is nice and hazy but the cliffs on the left are sharp and clear.

Also the shadows at the base of the tower are too sharp and too dark. IMHO

That is really sweet.

Sauja

 

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monkey_abbot 
Registered: Jun '02
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Date Posted: 7/18/02 7:02am Subject: RE: Landing platform: Terragen + MAX R4, what do you think?
you can animate in terragen?!! HOW HOW HOW!!!
i have seen the little "animation" button, but i don no bow to use it....

thats a cool pic !

 

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NXTB 
Registered: May '02
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Date Posted: 7/18/02 7:22am Subject: RE: Landing platform: Terragen + MAX R4, what do you think? - Date Edited: 7/18/02 7:22am (1 edits total) Edited By: NXTB
Not sure Carl, but you might want to check this link out, I think it's the plugin ptx was referring to earlier.

By the way, nice work, again. happy

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Carl_el_cee 
Registered: Jun '02
Date Posted: 7/18/02 8:01am Subject: RE: Landing platform: Terragen + MAX R4, what do you think? - Date Edited: 7/18/02 8:02am (1 edits total) Edited By: Carl_el_cee
Thats cool. I got it working. The tricky thing now, is to match up my camera in MAX to the CamPath. They don't use the same coordinates system and I'd have to setup about a dozen camera-track points so they'd line up. If only Terragen allowed you to make basic geometry... you could make MAX track a sphere or some sort, because tracking a terrain is REALLY difficult, giving the non-uniformity of the mesh....

Carl

EDIT: I'm rendering out the Terragen-only animation. I'll post it up when its finished. 20 frames done and ??? to go tongue

 

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EagleIFilms 
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Registered: Apr '01
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Date Posted: 7/18/02 8:18am Subject: RE: Landing platform: Terragen + MAX R4, what do you think?
Carl, at least for Blender, there is a Blend2Terr program, where, you can put the mesh from Terragen into Blender, then move the camera how ever you want, then it'll output that camera move to Terragen, and you can render the Terragen background, then you can output that to Blender, and render the Blender on top of it.

It works REALLY nicely, once you get it set up.

 

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Carl_el_cee 
Registered: Jun '02
Date Posted: 7/18/02 9:45am Subject: RE: Landing platform: Terragen + MAX R4, what do you think?
Ok, heres my first animation in Terragen. Hopefully, I'll work out a way to integrate my Platform on the landscape. On2 VP3 codec, enjoy!

Terragen + Campath animation

Carl

PS: Note the extremely detailed sun rays that appear to the right near the beggining of the clip happy

 

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BrentK7 
Registered: Dec '00
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Date Posted: 7/18/02 10:44am Subject: RE: Landing platform: Terragen + MAX R4, what do you think?
that's cool carl, is the flickering in the mountains just the compression or is it actually like that?

 

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Sauja-Dupen 
Registered: Aug '99
Date Posted: 7/18/02 10:49am Subject: RE: Landing platform: Terragen + MAX R4, what do you think?
¡Muy bien! ah sorry I mean Very Good!!! Didn't mean to confuse anybody.

I can't wait to see it with the platform, I will no doubt look awesome with movement!

Sauja

 

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