Author Topic: RECIPROCITY
CalQdeX  469 posts
Registered: Mar '01
7726_Jacen Solo
Date Posted: 12/5/02 1:06am Subject: RE: RECIPROCITY
I just saw it and loved it.
There seems to be a lot of story in the credit scenes. any chance of us seeing the whole story unedited?

 

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guruguy  151 posts
Registered: Apr '02
6598_Obi-Wan Kenobi
Date Posted: 12/5/02 11:09pm Subject: RE: RECIPROCITY
Overall I must say that the creators of Reciprocity should be very proud of their work. I thought that the acting was good, the story was very good and the dialogue ( that others expressed dislike for) was good.

A couple points after I had seen it the first time...
1) The sound. It was particularly bad for me and my headphones.
2) Nomi's whispering. It was great for mood and fit well but did I miss some story points because I couldn't understand it? It sounded a lot like Galadriel speaking Elvish in LOTR.
3) A few others felt the dialogue was too common. I liked it. If you give your actors lines that they are more comfortable with they will do a better job. I have seen a few cases in the past where actor's lines sounded very wooden and awkward because the dialogue was unatural for them.

In short, excellent job. I really enjoyed it and have watched it twice. After reading all of the posts in this thread I think the creators have explained themselves and answered all of our questions very well.

 

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Flpngboy  92 posts
Registered: May '02
6289_A-Wing
Date Posted: 12/8/02 11:14am Subject: RE: RECIPROCITY
"1) The sound. It was particularly bad for me and my headphones.
2) Nomi's whispering. It was great for mood and fit well but did I miss some story points because I couldn't understand it? It sounded a lot like Galadriel speaking Elvish in LOTR.
3) A few others felt the dialogue was too common. I liked it. If you give your actors lines that they are more comfortable with they will do a better job. I have seen a few cases in the past where actor's lines sounded very wooden and awkward because the dialogue was unatural for them."

I'll jump in here because Scott is busy with finals.

1) Yeah. Sound mixing wasn't exactly the greatest ever, but we learned a lot of what not to do again happy

2) I really hope you don't understand Nomi's whispering. It's not English happy The first thing you should understand is "why?" She says it twice and then says "why do you make us your enemy?"

3) Very true. It's super difficult to both maintain a language and accent plus an attitude or behavior without really practicing. We just didn't have that kind of time. We hope to on our next project.

 

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archiea 
Registered: Dec '02
6452_R5-D4
Date Posted: 12/8/02 3:44pm Subject: RE: RECIPROCITY
To Scott and the Gang....

Congradulations on your work. I hope people here will be inspired by your originality and percerverence. I do hope you continue your adventures and post them.

I've spent alot of time working with digital imaging and I can pass a suggetsion to help in your future projects....

Straight video tends to make people look anemic and harsh. One method that I use to try to cut this down in post is relayering the image over itself with some math operations. Most successful is using multiply...

I take the original footage. Duplicte it on the top layer. Then, instead of a normal blend mode, I use Multiply. The image will look darker. I them soften the multiply layer with Gaussian blur anywhere from 5% to 20%, depending on the effect I'm looking for. I scale down the Multiply layer by reducing it opacity (a good "gauge" for this effect) and then I use an adjustment layer overy all of this to bring the brightness up.

Do not brighten the image as to milk out the blacks. Before that happens, scale back the opacity of the multiply layer. I felt that this did wonders to fleshtones by knocking back the IR glow you get on video with fleshtones. Its like a post production make-up person. The Gaussian blur takes away the edge w/o bluring the whole image. The adjustment layer just brings the brightness that gets lost when you multiply the image against it self. This does require shot to shot adjustments.

Overall, you also get an ethereal look and feel thats subtle enough to use on the whole film without being too obvious. It also give your film a naturally more saturated and contrasty look that looks alot like a film print.

Another effect I use is to put your image in the back ground layer, make it a greyscale. Re-load the image on a FG layer and superimpose the color only. This is effectivly colorizing your greyscale layer with the color of your FG layer. Whoopee you say. If you add like a 5% blur to the color layer, you can blur out any CCD noise on the color channels without defocusiing your image. If you go a bit further, things get artsy. You can also get a more pastelly look from this to help knock out some of the electric look to Video colors. This may require selective color keying (i.e keyijng out hot colored lights to effect them specifically).

Thats all for now. Keep of the great work, everyone here,

 

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