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The Flying Dutchman 
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Date Posted: 2/20/01 4:47am Subject: RE: The Empire is Back
meaning that allthough the empire had all the time in the world (it takes quite some time for a rebellion to setup specialy since it needs a lot of organisation) so it proves that the empire's way weren't so good since the rebellion continued...

 

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Lord_Gita 
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Date Posted: 2/20/01 7:07am Subject: RE: The Empire is Back
I don't understand how you arrived at that conclusion. Because we didn't automatically eradicate you on the spot we are wrong and evil. But you, who just decided we were wrong, formed an army, and moved on to kill us, are the good guys?

For those of you that want to judge all of us by a few of us, may I remind all of you that in your quest to rid the galaxy of scum, specifically Jabba the Hutt, your leaders completely obliterated a sail barge full of people. At least some of whom were innocent. I didn't see your grand leader, Princess Leia, display any reluctance to fire a cannon into the deck and destroy the ship and those aboard. So be careful before taking a high and mighty attitude with us, you have not shown yourselves to be much better.

 

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Obi Anne 
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Date Posted: 2/20/01 12:37pm Subject: RE: The Empire is Back
Well the imperials didn't exaxtly hesitate to kill innocent people.

 

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Lord_Gita 
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Date Posted: 2/20/01 2:43pm Subject: RE: The Empire is Back
My point is that while we may have killed some civilians, bunches, to target the scum, the rebellion did no better. And yet, Mon Monthma goes around preaching how evil we are and how much better her rebellion is... The facts don't fit.

 

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Obi Anne 
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Date Posted: 2/22/01 1:22am Subject: RE: The Empire is Back
But the empire who's so big and strong shouldn't have needed to kill innocent people if they were so superior to the rebels. I admit that we did some mistakes, but the empire did a lot more.

 

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Lordban 
Registered: Nov '00
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Date Posted: 2/22/01 11:51am Subject: RE: The Empire is Back
Now you're boasting that you have the right to kill innocent people while we haven't ?
That you have the right to spread chaos without any restriction ?
Hey, you're saying YOU have right to take hostages because we should not kill them. That IS plain evil and would please most Sith : you're hiding yourself behind the tenets of an ideology you don't even try to follow.
My dear Obi Anne, the Empire never claimed that it was that much superior to you Rebs. We have just tried to protect peace and order against the threat you represent, abiding to an old rule every government and even your Rebel alliance obeys to : 'The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few'.

 

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Lordban 
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Date Posted: 3/1/01 10:50am Subject: RE: The Empire is Back
I guess the rebs' have lost this one.
(watches as the thread sinks back to the depths of the FanForce Community board)

 

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Obi Anne 
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Date Posted: 3/1/01 12:49pm Subject: RE: The Empire is Back
We haven't lost yet!!!!

You say that we also think that the needs of many is more important than the needs of the few. But at least we let all of the people decide their own good, it's impossible to make everyone happy. But you just had your emperor and governors who decided what was best for everyone.

 

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Azeem 
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Date Posted: 3/2/01 2:11am Subject: RE: The Empire is Back
"But at least we let all of the people decide their own good"

Lie.

A lot of people like the Empire and do not wish to return to the corrupt ways of the Old Republic.

Your "freedom" is not free.

 

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Lordban 
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Date Posted: 3/2/01 4:40am Subject: RE: The Empire is Back
You let all the people decide their own good ?
I hope you're joking Obi Anne. You can't be serious when typing this ! May I remind you that your High Command decided it was best for millions of people aboard the two Death Stars to die ? Do you really think their wish was to die ?

Nay, you blew the two fortresses up and said no prayers for them, you rejoiced and quickly forgot the bloodshed your leaders had commissionned.
You will doubtlessly want to reply 'That was needed for the Good of the Galaxy' or something in this tone - but this would be open contradiction with your own assertions.

 

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Obi Anne 
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Date Posted: 3/2/01 12:50pm Subject: RE: The Empire is Back
I didn't mean that everyone like the way we rule the galaxy. I meant that the planets in the galaxy has agreed to have parlamentary democracy, which means that every person has the right to say what he wants. Then they have the ability to vote and what most people want they get. Everyone can't be satisfied even if it's a majority, but at least we trust people to make their own decisions. We haven't got governors with direct control over their territories.

 

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Lordban 
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Date Posted: 3/3/01 2:20am Subject: RE: The Empire is Back
I still do not see how this freedom applied to those on board the Death Stars.

Besides, you have already vetoed the will of majorities - remember that the Corellians no longer wanted your rule and that a fleet was gathered and sent there under your commission. All this out of fear your so highly praised democracy would collapse.

You decided not to let the Corellian System get out of the New Republic when the hostilities ended and the Centerpoint problem was resolved. You reneged an article of your own Constitution then which says any star system willing to leave the New Republic is free to do so.

 

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The Flying Dutchman 
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Date Posted: 3/3/01 5:19am Subject: RE: The Empire is Back
About the death stars: these ppl are soldiers, so getting killed is a known risk to these ppl... As for those ppl wanting to be in the Empire: Your Empire was re-errected a some years later...

As for the Corrilians: I do not know about this, all I know is that no gouverment is perfect... allthough the Empire says it is...

If the Empire was so 'Greath' there didn't need to be a Rebellion, but instead of listening to them you tried to destroy them!!! A least the New Rep. didn't destroy correlia tongue

 

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Azeem 
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Date Posted: 3/3/01 6:22am Subject: RE: The Empire is Back
Glad to know the workers building the Death Star II were soldiers

Glad to know the janitors were soldiers.

Glad to know the prisoners you killed in the first Death Star were soldiers.

(What you think Leia had the cell block to herself?)

All governments have their traitors. All they wish to do is enforce a way of government by force rather than politics. The Empire was not formed by violence. The Senate still existed into ANH and was only disbanded after the treachery of the Alderaanians.

The Rebellion is ruled by what? 7 People? Nice representation there.


 

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Obi Anne 
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Date Posted: 3/3/01 2:16pm Subject: RE: The Empire is Back
Those people working on the DS knew that it was a military project, and working on them involves risks. And you haven't got any proof that there were other prisoners in the cell block, the DS was new they probably hadn't had time to fill the cells yet. And if you are speaking about the first DS, then it was already finished so there weren't any ordinary workers there, just imperial personell.

 

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