Author Topic: Sheath, Jedi teachings???
BOOSTERERRANT 
Registered: Dec '00
40039_Luke Skywalker
Date Posted: 8/17/01 3:17am Subject: RE: Sheath, Jedi teachings???
DA, I made the shut up comment in good humor. The only fools in this galaxy are those who think the true nature of the force is that of destruction. I refuse to believe that someone who can embrace the WEAKER side of the force can insult someones intelligence. Again, this is a place of learning, not put-downs. Kadub started this to get away from all of you...his own solitary place....keep the peace wil you?

and the IP scan never happened...if you were referring to me that is.

 

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DarthAttorney 
Title: Manager Emeritus
Registered: Nov '00
6179_Palpatine
Date Posted: 8/17/01 4:15am Subject: RE: Sheath, Jedi teachings??? - Date Edited: 8/17/01 4:21am (1 edits total) Edited By: DarthAttorney
I refuse to believe that someone who can embrace the WEAKER side of the force can insult someones intelligence.

Do you mean I'm on the Light Side, Booty? I don't get it....you're too vague. I was referring to myself with the IP scan but your guilty conscience shines through as always wink

Anyway, in response to DS5: Everyone has the capacity for evil. Whether you can justify it enough in your own mind to act on it is a different matter. This is how the first Sith came to be. They were not evil but used the Force to their own ends, under the mantra that "Power ignored is power denied". And so it has been handed down from Master to Apprentice for millennia. The Force is there to be bent to your will, to follow your design. Now....stay with me here.....if the Force is bent to one's will for positive ends.....what then? If one uses questionable means to positive ends? Again, I guess it's all subjective.....

In short: the Sith still are not evil. They use the Force to their own ends, true. But if the Force is subjective then so is the nature of evil wink

 

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DarthSeti5 
Registered: Jan '01
6148_Obi-Wan Kenobi
Date Posted: 8/17/01 10:06am Subject: RE: Sheath, Jedi teachings??? - Date Edited: 8/17/01 10:32am (1 edits total) Edited By: DarthSeti5
Nonetheless, I have tried to teach you all that there is Dark and Light, but they reside within you. Dark and Light are determined by how and why you use the Force. Since I'm a Jedi Master, I don't believe that the ends justify the means.

EDIT: No, the Force is. Evil is evil. If you do something bad, it's bad. Even if it's to make good, it's still bad and you probably will do more and more evil. Evil is evil, good is good, and the Force is.

 

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The_Grey_and_White 
Registered: Aug '01
6602_Obi-Wan Kenobi
Date Posted: 9/2/01 3:35am Subject: RE: Sheath, Jedi teachings???
DarthAttorney, the great Vulcan philosopher Surak said "The nature of the universe is concerned with beginnings, not ends."
His errant pupil, S'task, father of the Rihannsu people, as he lay dying at the hands of the Ruling Queen, Vriha T'Rehu, showed his eventual agreement with his teacher, through his dying words- "The beginning is contaminated, and the force will not avail you, or it."

 

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Manifest 
Registered: Aug '01
Date Posted: 9/18/01 9:35am Subject: RE: Sheath, Jedi teachings???
See how quickly the Jedi tend to invade those who seek other views that are not their own.

Remain friends with their "traitor" Omaj Kadub and you will feel the same harsh hand of the Jedi upon your face.

 

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Master-Omaj-Kadub 
Registered: Dec '00
6372_Mace Windu
Date Posted: 9/18/01 6:14pm Subject: RE: Sheath, Jedi teachings???
Walks into temple and removes hood..

Greetings all....

Some believed I had forsaken them, but I have not...I have explained to some here the problem...but I will return....

I can not stay long, but I will make this brief.....

The Jedi are tempted by the darkside daily it seems.....
Just as the sun rises it will surely go down into the dust.....

Do not be provoked by those who wish to turn you....They will try to make you act in a manner you would not ordinarily....Trust in the force to guide you down the path of the lightside....

I know there are some here who do not believe, but they must choose their own path...You can not choose it for them....

May the force be with you all til I return again....

Pulls up hood..

 

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Padawan716 
Registered: Feb '01
Date Posted: 9/18/01 6:21pm Subject: RE: Sheath, Jedi teachings???
welcome, and goodbye, master kadub! happy

 

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eaglejedi 
Registered: Feb '01
6873_Luke Skywalker
Date Posted: 9/18/01 11:39pm Subject: RE: Sheath, Jedi teachings???
Manifest, were you born a pathological liar or did you learn it in school? tongue
Jedi are not invading anyone. They thought they were welcome to participate in these discussions, but I guess this is not so. You have shown the true nature of this place, and how truly tolerant it is of open discussion.
As for friends of Kadub, since when have we harassed or attacked those who remain his friends? It is for our own security and the security of the Boards that we watch his friends and associates and limit what we tell them.
And you, my friend, are on the path to ban-land, just as your other identities here are. tongue

 

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Nord 
Registered: Jan '01
6273_Death Star Plans
Date Posted: 9/19/01 4:58pm Subject: RE: Sheath, Jedi teachings???
We do not support this Manifest character. He just pops up unannounced, so do not judge this place on what this person has to say. wink

eagle, what other identities? Manifest checks out as one person. ?:|

 

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eaglejedi 
Registered: Feb '01
6873_Luke Skywalker
Date Posted: 9/20/01 10:19pm Subject: RE: Sheath, Jedi teachings???
Yes, of course he does...

 

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Master-Omaj-Kadub 
Registered: Dec '00
6372_Mace Windu
Date Posted: 9/21/01 12:47pm Subject: RE: Sheath, Jedi teachings???
Walks into temple and removes hood...
Prepares some tea...


[b]I see that Master EagleJedi has come to visit these surrounding....
Good to see an old friend...

EagleJedi,
Now are you claiming that I am someone else?
Or do you feel I have influence a free wilding mind?

This is a place of knowledge, not ridicule...
If you have come to belittle then leave..
If you have come to express your concerns, then please speak.....

The Jedi have changed much...
whether for the better or worst is still yet to be seen...
I only say that patient and time will reveal who is deceiving who.....

<sips, tea>

I must leave now...

May the force be with you...

stands up, pulls up hood and leaves...

 

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Ewan-Kenobi 
Registered: Oct '00
20060_Anakin Skywalker
Date Posted: 9/22/01 7:16pm Subject: RE: Sheath, Jedi teachings???
*strolls in*

Well well well...look what they decided to let back in. I wasn't aware that the JC let the likes of you back in. happy

Here to pretend to be wise and serine, and then break ez-board law from behind a curtain of lies?
Tisk tisk tisk Omega.

I kind of walked into the middle of a disscussion, were we talking about, 'does the ends justify the means?'

I don't think the ends justify the means, that's my opinion. Let me give you an example;
Let's say that some guy, we'll call him Oma...yoyo...Roy, let's call him Roy. Let's say Roy didn't like a certain group, he didn't trust them, and thought they were 'evil'. So he decides he's gonna sabotage them, and he takes another personality. He ends up lying to allies and breaks all sorts of rules, just to try and destroy that group.

Would he be right? To use evil methods to stop those he had a hunch could have been bad?

Personally, I think that's wrong.

 

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Nord 
Registered: Jan '01
6273_Death Star Plans
Date Posted: 9/23/01 3:22pm Subject: RE: Sheath, Jedi teachings??? - Date Edited: 9/23/01 3:25pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Nord
Ewan-Kenobi,

I do not think you were discreat enough in your post, therefore, I feel that you should apologize to Omaj Kadub for trolling.

Or...

You can just delete your own post and leave.

 

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Manifest 
Registered: Aug '01
Date Posted: 9/24/01 1:38pm Subject: RE: Sheath, Jedi teachings???
Is it a lie, eaglejedi?

No.

I believe there are those in your order that would like to see Master-Omaj-Kadub and his supporters banned.

I believe there are those among you that dislike this man so much that they would even prevent them admittance into your academy.

This will reveal itself.

 

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DarthSeti5 
Registered: Jan '01
6148_Obi-Wan Kenobi
Date Posted: 9/24/01 4:03pm Subject: RE: Sheath, Jedi teachings???
To my knowledge, the Acadmey has not password protection. All Lightsiders are welcome to come and train at our Academy.

 

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