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LAJ_FETT Title: •Tech Admin, Collecting • CCG/TCG Boardgames Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 7/15/07 3:06pm Subject: The Goods and Bads of CE
	On the whole I had a good time. But, if you could let the organizers know the good and bad points of the setup, what would you mention? My main complaints fall in the setup of the dealer and exhibit area. I attended all 3 days. Friday was pretty good. Saturday was horrible with the crowds. Sunday was marginally better. My main complaint was in the aisle sizes. The wide aisles were great. The narrow aisles led to massive congestion. It was made much worse by those parking baby prams/strollers in the middle of the narrow aisles while they shopped or took pictures. The other congestion area was near the Army's inflatable obstacle course. It was up against the 501st area. Between the immovable inflatable and crowds of photographers the area was impassable at times. Basically I think they either needed more space or more efficient use of the space they had. I believe they underestimated the crowds and it really showed on Saturday. Also the dealer room was quite warm on Sunday. We found we were going out quite a bit for fresh air. Friday and Saturday were fine. Were they having air conditioning or ventilation problems on Sunday? Good stuff - most of the guests (the Hamill talk was great, as were Steve Sansweet's talks). The Platinum Theatre and Celebrity Stage setups were pretty good seeing-wise. The location was good (but a pain commuting-wise for me from out near Heathrow). There was plenty of room for people to take a break near the river or over at the Fox pub. It was my first time visiting ExCel and on the whole I enjoyed the experience. -----signature----- BF - 'Bounty Hunter Wars': "Don't be an idiot. Or at least not any more of one than you have to be." "All that matters is my life and my business." "I do the things I'm good at, and for which I get paid the best." http://www.lajfett.yolasite.com
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GannerRhysode19 Registered: Jul '07	Date Posted: 7/15/07 3:33pm Subject: RE: The Goods and Bads of CE
	I agree, the crowds and the seemingly small area of the hall that CE took up made moving around a real pain. I would've preferred more of the main hall used, even if it meant extra walking. I was there all three days, Friday was amazing, best day ever, but Saturday got congested, hot, and i was tired most the day from all the pushing I had to do to get anywhere. to be honest, it ruined the weekend for me. I also thought that maybe there could've been more activities, that would've helped to keep the kids out of our way whilst we did the talks and the shops and the exhibits on Saturday. Also, as nice as the platinum lounge was, it was a pain to have to leave the hall and queue up to get back in, especially on Saturday. For CEII, I wanna see more of the back hall opened up, I've been there before and you can have the entire side opened up, the wall was more of a barrier than the actual hall wall. Best part would have to have been the saber battle. For those who didn't see or hear about it, after the party on saturday, some of us organised a massive charge across the bridge outside, anyone with a glowing lightsaber was welcome, Dark Siders one end, Jedi the other. we charged from opposite ends of the bridge, and it was exhilirating, incredibly good fun even if it did wear us out. That or Mark Hamill, brilliant man.
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Tim_In_CT Registered: Dec '02	Date Posted: 7/15/07 3:42pm Subject: RE: The Goods and Bads of CE
	I'll bet that would have been a sight in the dark, and from the ground. IMHO: It was hot on Sunday, and I'm not sure having the military at SW/CE was entirely appropriate. Others may disagree. -----signature----- Primary Rules of Life: #1 Depend on no one but yourself to fail or succeed. #2 Make yourself happy. #3 Make those you love happier. http://www.lajfett.yolasite.com
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Qui-Ton-Set Registered: May '06	Date Posted: 7/15/07 3:53pm Subject: RE: The Goods and Bads of CE
	Damn the Military! I agree, it was a bit wierd to see the other 2 Services there. The RAF was there too (me)! But I was there for SW! -----signature----- The ONLY opinion worth its weight is your own.... Executive Bully - The Emperor's New Clones http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?search_query=Backyard+Productions&user=edthedoc
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redxavier Registered: Jan '03	Date Posted: 7/15/07 4:43pm Subject: RE: The Goods and Bads of CE
	There shouldn't have been a queue to get into the exhibitor's hall alone, after having been in a queue for 40 minutes it was difficult to leave in order to attend platinum stage events in the morning. After getting our tickets, we had to walk the entire length of the centre to join the end of the queue outside. Why did they have the entrance next to the ticket booth like that? Did they not anticipate that the queue would get so long? I was personnally disappointed at the set-up for the autograph hall, with the guests as far away as possible from the hall entrance: it was I thought a rather obvious ploy to get people to fork over more money. I wasn't able to glimpse any of the guests without buying vouchers (for which there was another long queue). The highlight for me was the One Man Star Wars show (one of only 2 events I went to) which was hilarious. The 501st and all those who got dressed up deserve a big thanks. I think going on Friday would have been much better for seeing all the sellers and the artshow. But I felt that Saturday had the better schedule. Lesson learned: one day is not enough! Despite the enormous overall fun and feeling of exhilaration, I wouldn't them to have another Celebration next year, it's only going to dilute the significance of the show and drive up prices. They should only do them every 5 years. -----signature----- They're in the right places for just the right amount of time because [George] has a gift for knowing how long to leave a shot on the screen before you start seeing the seams. RICHARD EDLUND 1983
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FitKisto88 Registered: Aug '06	Date Posted: 7/15/07 9:51pm Subject: RE: The Goods and Bads of CE
	The Good Warwick Davis & The Panels Warwick was a really good mc, very lively, quick witted and he had a great raport with the audience. His interviews with Mark Hamill, Rick McCallum and Ray Park were all highlights (especailly their re-enactment of the Darth Maul battle from Episode 1) Artists Alley Some very strong work on show. Meeting Adam Hughes and Dave Dorman were high points. Fanboys Screening This is a very funny movie, which is pitched just right between comedy and pathos. All the cameos went down well with the crowd. The Carrie Fisher scene was probably the funniest. And Seth Rogen's role as the Trekkie was outstanding. We were all lucky to see this. Opening Ceremony The constant planes going overhead were a pain, but seeing Ian McDairmid made it worthwhile. The Bad Overcrowding This was a huge problem on Saturday, you had to que for an hour if you popped out and wanted to go back in to the main hall. The ques for the events, the toilets and cafes were almost as bad. I was in costume to start with, but I barely lasted a few hours in such a large crowd. Sunday showed some improvement, but really Friday was by far the best day, simply because we could all get enough breathing room. Having my camera stolen All my records of the event are lost because of some lightfingered swine. I doubt they'll be caught, but at least they won't get much money from the camera. Space taken up by the Navy and Army I agree that the military stands took up too much space. What was the reasoning? "If people like Star Wars then they must be into real war"? Aside from the extra money they made this was a bad move by the organisers.
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johnny124 Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 7/16/07 12:00am Subject: RE: The Goods and Bads of CE
	I had a great time, but my biggest concern was the lack of organisation and security around the main theatre. The second show I went to on the Friday had a queue going from the theatre entrance to the autograph token purchase booth, then back all the way to the entrance of the show. Of course, with no security at all in view, when the queue started moving the two ends simply merged and those at the back were amongst the first in. I saw people walk straight in from the entrance to the show to the entrance to the theatre, whilst the queue was still very much evident. Also, there were no security evident (at least on Friday) during the show itself. What if someone had rushed the stage? As it was, the worst it got were people standing at the back of the floor seating and blocking people's views. Saturday (before Anthony Daniels) the queue was a joke, security had let people too far into the feature whilst the previous show was running. Some people leaving Charlie Ross simply joined the start of the queue for Anthony Daniels... Agree with the militrary comment also - to paraphrase one of the Vader helmets on display, why do the organisers feel it necessary to have the military at an event aimed at children? The rest I loved - Charlie Ross was great, the talks were funny, I got some good new figures, and I got to see lots of the original trilogy crew in the Novotel bar, and even spoke with Mark Hamill and had my pic taken with him, as well as adding Rick McCallum to my auto collection
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Qui-Ton-Set Registered: May '06	Date Posted: 7/16/07 12:53am Subject: RE: The Goods and Bads of CE
	Overall a great event. Defintitely worth getting in early (Hypersapce and all that!) Queuing for Mark Hamill was a joke, secuurity did not have a clue. Best moments; meeting the stars! Anthony Daniels offering me a kiss (but with no toungues) in his show, Rick MacCallum asking for my TENCLO fan film DVD on stage - wow!!!! -----signature----- The ONLY opinion worth its weight is your own.... Executive Bully - The Emperor's New Clones http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?search_query=Backyard+Productions&user=edthedoc
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Lord-Tice Title: FF-UK: London CR FF-UK Webmaster Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 7/16/07 2:10am Subject: RE: The Goods and Bads of CE
	I'll be contacting the organisers shortly and will ask if they'd like any feedback, in which case I will pass these comments onto them. All-in-all I loved the show but I think even Lucasfilm ddin't expect it to be this popular and busy, so any future CE's (and the signs were all pointing towards another one at some point) I think they will need to think about having a much bigger area. I think it came down to money; not wanting to spend too much incase it was a disaster but we were told during the auction 45,000 people have visted the show over the three days and I heard 5,000 were turned away on Saturday. So I think this can be classed as a total success for the money men and so they can afford to take more risks next time. The question is, should the next one be at the ExCel again or in another European city?? I think the ExCel is a great location but they'd need to use certainly all of the South Halls and possible all, or half at least, of the North Halls. Maybe have two stages, both with 5,000+ seating. And both the autograph and exhibitor halls need extending. The good news is they have two years to decide on these things..............perhaps -----signature----- My Youtube showreel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsB1eBjUNwI FF-UK:L http://boards.theforce.net/Board.aspx?brd=10419 Monkeys are great!!
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LAJ_FETT Title: •Tech Admin, Collecting • CCG/TCG Boardgames Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 7/16/07 2:53am Subject: RE: The Goods and Bads of CE
	I thought ExCel was a pretty good location, other than my personal complaint about the lengthy commute (about 1.5 hours each way for us). I had no problem with toilet queues - everytime I needed to use one there were plenty of empty stalls in whatever location I used. It was much easier to nip up to the SG level via the dealer hall lifts and use those toilets rather than the ones in the main entry hall though, especially with the lines on Saturday. -----signature----- BF - 'Bounty Hunter Wars': "Don't be an idiot. Or at least not any more of one than you have to be." "All that matters is my life and my business." "I do the things I'm good at, and for which I get paid the best." http://www.lajfett.yolasite.com
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JED1 Title: Former FF-UK: Scotland CR Registered: Dec '98	Date Posted: 7/16/07 3:26am Subject: RE: The Goods and Bads of CE
	Morning all, boy am I tired and so glad I have a day off today to get over everything! What a blast CE was, I loved pretty much everything apart from the crowds don't get me wrong I am glad there were loads of people there as it bodes well for future events but in the space we were all crammed into it was hellish at times. I couldn't get in to see Mark Hamill or Rick McCallum as 2,000 seats just weren't enough so was sad about that. So if anyone from Lucasfilm is reading this! lol! choose the SECC in Glasgow for the next one, huge halls similar to ExCel and the bonus of a 6,000 plus seater, air conditioned custom built concert hall on site too! just perfect for all those talks! Loved the artists alley, came away with four pieces! won a Hasbro figure from the German 501st garrison with their droid hunt, loved meeting a load of FanForcers (Shout outs to Les, Tim from CT, TimB, Matt, Ritchie, John, Sai, ObiWan, erm I mean Spike, Corrine, Suzi, Obi Anne,Skiara, etc, etc ) Don't know if they are here, but a hello to Nadine Michael and Henrik from Germany too! Loved just wandering around and soaking in the atmosphere! I certainly hope there will be another and that I am able to go!! -----signature----- Alright look, there's only one 'Return', Ok? and it ain't of 'the King' it's 'of the Jedi'... Link to my collection pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/corsec5/ MySpace : http://www.myspace.com/darthkiltie Melissa *
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VenHalcyon Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 7/16/07 4:46am Subject: RE: The Goods and Bads of CE
	Overall I think this was a great convention, but they need to work on it a bit, good and bad highlights...i'll post the bad first... Bad: Autograph Hall - what a mess - they need a proper Virtual Queuing system for the big stars - it was pretty much every man for himself, which is fine for the minor ones but the Mark Hamill farce where they gave out timed tickets but still let people queue up before their time was a major mess up. I know the fact Mark was talking with near everyone made that a hard situation to manage though - as it was the main reason the q was moving so slowly. Mixing of the Dealer Area with...everything else. They should have had a "Dealer RooM" - an "Artists Room", a "Fan Area". Yes, having all the props was cool, having everyone on costume wandering around was cool - but having people stopping and posing for photo's in the middle of everything was just silly - should have put it out to one side and kept it well away from the mass mingle around the Dealers. Same really for the art stuff - it was just too cramped - which when you're dealing with expensive art prints is a pain! Split things up. Queuing for Talks etc. - Whoops - didn't think about where you'd get 2000 people to q did you...? The queues for the talks just got in the way of everyone! Good: Content - generally speaking I think they had pretty much all the bases well covered - if anything there was TOO much to do in just 3 days. Guests - a good group of guests really, covering all elements of the show from classic to prequels (let's face it, the chances of getting a big name prequel star to sign are ltd), from imps, to aliens to rebels, and they also had some pretty solid 'back room' names as well. -----signature----- Nateboarding is for Life Rogue 12 I'm glad you think I'm not bad, but I want to be the best.
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Neogeta Registered: Mar '04	Date Posted: 7/16/07 5:36am Subject: RE: The Goods and Bads of CE
	Overall I had an awesome time, Overcroweding was a bit of a pain and so was the lack of seating.. this comming from someone who has mobility problems.. I agree it did seem that some of the stalls wernt well planned out. The security guards could have been better, me and a group of others were queing on saturday for the force unleashed event in the platnum stage we were told to join the back of the NEW line!! I loved it all despite that, I really appreciate the guys and girls who came dressed in costume, you'v all helped enspire me to desgin a costume... if I can stick to my diet... Must resist flapjack's!!!
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moosemousse Title: CR - FF:UK South Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 7/16/07 10:38am Subject: RE: The Goods and Bads of CE
	I have to agree on the over crowding issue, it got a bit much at time and a lot of people just stopped right in the way of everyone making it hard to go anywhere. Another problem was people taking pictures, I gave up trying to take a picture of one of the costumes as people kept running up to have their photo taken or running in front of me. I did get some good pictures though, even if it did take a while to get them. Another problem was food prices. It was just too expensive everywhere. The queueing system was fubar, IMO. Having to walk the length of the building twice because the place you want to get to is just inside the exit really sucked. Then there was the Mark Hamill Talk, the queue was stupidly long. I'm glad I had a book with me as I had something to do while we waited. The queue for the Celebrity Stage was just a mess in general though. There was also the platinum quite shows, I waited in line for about 10 minutes for the tattoo competition not realising it wasn't the queue for it, even though I was told that this was where the queue started, I still had to wait before they let me up to the actual queue. There was more good than bad though. Mark Hamill's talk was really good. There was a tattoo talk and a tattoo competition, a lot of really nice inks on display there, including a back piece that had been singed by Mark Hamill. The costume pageant was really good, lots of nice costumes there. There were also a lot of nice costumes that weren't entered, highlights including seeing Shaak Ti drinking beer and Thrawn eating noodles. Another great moment was when we were waiting for Mark Hamill, a scout trooper came over was walking past and saw me reading, he came over and inspected my book to see if it was rebel propaganda (it was Harry Potter book 3). I also got some stuff I've been looking for, and some stuff I wasn't expecting. I would've bought more but my money was too limited. The biggest highlight though was meeting everyone and having a great time with people I've only spoken to online. It just made the whole weekend so much more enjoyable. From having lunch with the fan fic writers to helping out with the Fan Force talk to having a few drinks in the evening, it was all good. Oh, and the Chozen Noodle noodles were also good. -----signature----- Vader's Mousedroid Society Fanfic links in my bio My fan art: http://boards.theforce.net/fan_art/b10020/26961879/ Bei der Instalation ältere Versionen aktualisiert # Boards: -1 \| # Messages: -1 (-1 today)
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Darthsmuse Registered: Nov '04	Date Posted: 7/16/07 10:47am Subject: RE: The Goods and Bads of CE - Date Edited: 7/16/07 10:51am (1 edits total) Edited By: Darthsmuse
	FitKisto88 said: "Having my camera stolen. All my records of the event are lost because of some lightfingered swine. I doubt they'll be caught, but at least they won't get much money from the camera. " Same thing happened to me on Saturday morning - the security suite was very helpful. Apparently Saturday was a bad day for things going missing. -----signature----- http://www.myspace.com/darthsmuse
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VenHalcyon Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 7/16/07 11:04am Subject: RE: The Goods and Bads of CE
	Another guy we know (don't know his FF SN, heh) accidentally deleted all his images on the Sat night, Gutting losing images - so sorry for you guys! Did they literally take it off you sort of thing? This is what happens when the Daily Star gives out free tickets!!! -----signature----- Nateboarding is for Life Rogue 12 I'm glad you think I'm not bad, but I want to be the best.
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