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HoosierTrooper
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Date Posted:
6/2/07 11:12pm
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RE: Opening Ceremonies ... The Empire Strikes Boring
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You seem to want to start a flame war, but neither ValedaKor or I care to deal with it. It seems that you have been picking little fights in various threads. 
Look, I made a post days ago simply stating my opinion that opening ceremonies were not that bad and were well received by people I came in contact with. No one cared, no one replied, everyone continued on fine. Then you come along and want to complain (which is your right), but insist on attacking my point of view.
I never thought I would have to apologize for trying to stay positive about a convention, fandom, and series I love. 
I'm sorry you and your stroller missed opening ceremonies. Had I known, I would have saved you a piece of cake. 
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han-shot-first
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Date Posted:
6/3/07 1:25am
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RE: Opening Ceremonies ... The Empire Strikes Boring
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wow! obviously you have no idea of anything I said. you must still be wrapped up in you as that's all i've had to read from you here. it's everything you you you.
I don't even have a stroller nor a small child. if you would've read what was said rather than get your butt hurt over nothing more than a viepoint, (sorry it's not your fantasy pefect convention world and it's nothing to do with you personally), you'd see part of what happen was to us and part was viewed by us (and several hundred others). 
no flame war here...just voicing what happened. can't believe I have to watch what I say as it may offend. sad part is it had nothing to do with YOU, so stop making it so.
i'm sorry you can't handle any other version of what happened but really...whose attacking who?
like I said before, it's amazing how some can say what they want and get away with it and others get **** for their view or experience because it doesn't go with the robot, all is fine, don't say anything bad about anything.
and really...picking little fights? are you serious? my view which was different than yours and a few others is picking fights? where's the tissue? you can't be serious. I in no way want to pick a fight with anyone. are we in grade school here? what's next.."he's looking at me the wrong way"? 
I find it hilarous that you don't answer anything that was written by me as you can't. sooooo you spin what is being said and make it out as somehow I personally attack you? because you write something and nobody replies to it and I did more than once somehow makes it i'm picking fights? please... 
GOD forbid there be anything other than what you saw...this is a waste of my time and energy. I get it...you're the good little board poster. unbelieveable! i'm done with you as I don't want this to be my last memory of C-IV. 
*Need to star it all the way out, hun*
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lovelucas
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Date Posted:
6/3/07 12:44pm
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RE: Opening Ceremonies ... The Empire Strikes Boring
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it's all well and good to see things in a positive viewpoint but it was not the truth for many people, at least regarding the opening ceremonies. I do feel George missed a huge opportunity to show us he does want Star Wars to live forever. and he could have been there..and he should have been there. and that goes for Rick too who promised everyone at CIII that he would be.
If Celebrations are going to be continued in LA, and I've heard they will be, then take advantage of it being in your back yard while the rest of the country have to deep 6 their budgets in order to pay the price of airfare, more expensive hotels and food, just to participate.
it's the very least they could have done.....be there for the opening ceremonies.
and yes, I will keep my name because I do still love the gift he's given.
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Obi Anne
Title: FanForce RSA
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6/6/07 10:43am
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The overall impression of the OC was that it was a bit ill planned. It started out great with the band and Sansweet as an ewok, and I really liked the piano arrangements as well. The problem was that it took way too long time to get the cake out to everyone, and you could just sit around and look at the people eating on stage. After that it felt just like commercials for the different stages, and having been there for two days already that felt really lame. I wasn't expecting Lucas or anything, I thought it was nice that he had recorded a message for us, but something more special just for the ones actually attending the OC would have been nice. I loved Typho's video as well, but it felt strange that one of the best things came from a fan, and that they hadn't thought about anything like that themselves.
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Miana Kenobi
Title: Pacific RSA
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Date Posted:
6/6/07 10:54am
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RE: Opening Ceremonies ... The Empire Strikes Boring
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lovelucas posted:
the USC Band members were not exactly exceptional. plus - I know George is an alumni but I'd rather have had a genuine rocking band that also plays jazz and doesn't need sheet music. Why USC anyway? no relationship to Star Wars.
That was sadly only a small handful of the USC band. Sticking up in their defense, it looked as if they only grabbed a small portion of the band and threw the music at them at the last minute (many of them still had their music lanyards in front of them so they could read the music), so it looks like they themsevles didn't have it fully memorized. The USC band, when in full force and full gear, is incredible. The aucoustics for the room were horrendous, and they got a very lame sounding orchestration of the Imperial March.
And why did they use them? USC is 2 miles down the road.
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Bruno_Fett
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I though they used the band because it was the same one that followed the Star Wars Floats in the Rose Bowl Parade?
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USC is also Papa George's alma mater.
The band that performed in the Rose Bowl parade with the SW floats is from another school .
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Darth_SeaTown
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Is anyone aware if the Opening Ceremonies are posted online in their entirety anywhere? Or at least a large portion of the event? I did a search on YouTube and could only find 1-2 minute snippets.
I know some people will say "not worth it" or "boring", etc. But for those of us that got locked out due to that bogus bomb scare, I'd be interested to see it if it's out there. Thanks.
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Amidala081499
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I checked YOUTUBE as well, for any C4 related things and came up nada. I think I waited for a month after the Con and tried and finally some things were posted, so I would check back in a month. It was ok, it was nothing to really write home about, kinda felt like a sales pitch!!!
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Miana Kenobi
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RE: Opening Ceremonies ... The Empire Strikes Boring
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Bruno_Fett posted:
I though they used the band because it was the same one that followed the Star Wars Floats in the Rose Bowl Parade?
Grambling State was the Rose Parade band, and they're from Mississippi. (Or Louisiana. Can't remember which)
Truthfully, I suspect they used USC mostly because they're right down the road, even more than the fact that it's George's school. 
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Date Posted:
6/6/07 11:11pm
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IMO - Bad w/ the Good
Outside of 1) the Stamp Ceremony, 2) The B-Day cake, 3) The Parade of Celebs (more on this later), 4) The Mayor making May 25th 'SW' Day in LA and finally 5) The USC Band
All of which should have happened (and did) anyway -- I did find the Opening Ceremonies to be rather lacking in anything of Quality Ep.4 'ANH'-edness (which is the reason why we were all suppose to be there right???) the 30th Anniversary of 'SW - ANH' right???
Other than Captain_Typho's stunning work (which did bring a tear to my eye) Imagine, a fan-made effort the best part of the Ceremonies ... very much so. This at a GenCon/LucasFilm event - I guess the state of things in a galaxy far, far away (I did constantly overhear ppl speaking very positively of the Typho-Tribute all through-out the weekend) and felt good that I had at least seen/experienced one little bit of something solid
I did feel rather sorry for Mr. Sansweet (at the time) dressed in Ewok costume, w/ much confusion & dead-air surrounding him (not aware during it all of the bomb scare) if that is the reason for the delays
And by the way - The Parade of Celebs -- Whomever they (GenCon/LucasFilm) had as a stage manager for the ceremonies did an absolute poor job in organizing/preparing any type of flow to this ... said section of the Prgm.
There was NO synch what-so-ever in the actors/actresses coming into view and the voice-over announcing them
Robert Watts was announced close to 2:00 min before we saw him come out (another amount of time where you could see Sansweet shrinking as he stood there)
I was really disappointed that some of the main body of this series of films (especially 'ANH') and yet, in attendance at C4: Carrie Fisher, Antony Daniels, Ray Park (to name a few) didn't even partake in Friday's opening show
Whomever was introducing them never announced Kenny Baker but I did hear that he was alledgedly on stage, although couldn't see him and can't find him in any online-posted images??? (no joke there either)
Sorry everyone but it just had no 'ANH' substance to it at all
There was, of course, the expected new game trailers & previews of C4 Prgm's Etc.
In talking to a freelance LA Editor (at a Live to Internet-cast show at the HICC late on Saturday) who had been in touch w/ GenCon (they were apparently very accepting of fan submitted works) who was rather miffed he couldn't get a quality 'ANH' edit put together in time for the Opening Ceremonies as it was sorrily & terribly missed
Funny that the main demographic of ppl - starwoids as you may have it (that this Celebration was for and solely because of) were the one demographic that saw the least in return
ps - If worked in better (w/ said lacking-in-flow) Boba Fett's (w/ Jet back pack) appearance would have greatly added to the Prgm.
check it out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_gKzqbUccg
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6/6/07 11:26pm
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The opening ceremonies could have been better, I agree, but I wasn't completely dissapointed by it. The "schedule sampler" rundowns might seem a tad redundant at first glimpse, but for many people, it might be their only chance to get a taste of what some panels and shows are like, since things are always scheduled in an overlapping, it's very likely a lot of people didn't get a chance to see a lot of shows, and so the OC rundown gives them at least some of that (hell, I've been to all 4 Celebrations, and I only FINALLY managed to catch both "One-Man Star Wars Trilogy" and "Star Wars in 30 Minutes" at Celebration IV- and not until the last "extra day" of the Con on Monday, despite both shows being at previous Celebrations- they were always scheduled against other things I wanted to see more.
Now, the whole stamp ceremony shoulda been shorter, but it seems like the USPS was a big sponsor of the Con so they had to pimp their stuff.
Also, I wasn't aware of the bomb scare thing until about an hour after the OC ended, so that didn't affect my perception of things.
As for the Celeb line-up, I think a lot of the problems people have result basicly from the scheduling of the event to coincide with the exact 30th Anniversary date of May 25th. By having the con on Memorial Day Weekend, a lot of people, celebs included, are gonna be out of town either on personal or buisness trips. Likewise Lucas, Mccallum & Hamill's Indy schedules also conflicted. If this had been held in late April or early May like the last three Celebrations, I think we would have had a much better turnout in terms of line-up. However, I am surprised Lucas didn't arrange some kind of video hook-up live.
But, all in all, most of what happened at the OCs isn't much different from what happened at the last OC at C3. They replaced the lightsaber duel with the rocket man, and thats about it. It did lack a "big premiere" like the music videos at past Celebrations- partially the fault of them wanting to save the Clone Wars trailer for the Clone Wars panel on Sunday. Though even that was filled in by the Family Guy SW trailer and In Memorianum.
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Darth_SeaTown posted:
Is anyone aware if the Opening Ceremonies are posted online in their entirety anywhere? Or at least a large portion of the event? I did a search on YouTube and could only find 1-2 minute snippets.
I know some people will say "not worth it" or "boring", etc. But for those of us that got locked out due to that bogus bomb scare, I'd be interested to see it if it's out there. Thanks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqCQuXnAP1Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZSMySia2b4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SNBHZZqG30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmdYYASBGUo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gL7No6t3rc
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Grambling State was the Rose Parade band, and they're from Mississippi. (Or Louisiana. Can't remember which)
Truthfully, I suspect they used USC mostly because they're right down the road, even more than the fact that it's George's school.
Thanks for the clarification. Beleive it or not I taped the parade and still have not had the time to sit and watch it to date. So I really was not sure at all, I know they had some video footage and float pieces on display outside the hall. I think it was all part of the whole "see star wars is still alive and kicking" theme. We actually snuck in the back door, so tha band was no real surprise to us we walked by them on the loading docks. Ther was only one USC bus there so I am sure it was a very scaled down band.
Good points about the rest of the opening ceremony, it did sort of drag. Maybe that was because of the fact I had already been up for over 48 straight hours at that point. Most of my group left early, after sansweet said "our final host" that was our cue to beat the crowd. Later that evening when our one friend, who did stay, started talking about how Boba Fett flew in after we left, we all thought he was s**tting us.
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On a side note, from what I've heard Steve Sansweet was pretty ill that day and wasn't even sure if he was going to make it in to do opening ceremonies, and then he had to put on that Ewok suit....
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