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JayTee_Erricck
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Date Posted:
5/29/07 11:28pm
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The Slave Leia Group Picture
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Greetings, Fellow Star Wars fans.
I was at this event (or tried to be, anyway). I heard a lot of the same comments that mirrored my thoughts. I knew SOMEONE would start posting about this so I figured, why not.
No offense to the nice people at LeiasMetalBikini.com (I even the webmaster after the smoke cleared later in the day...found him to be quite nice). However, the event really was not executed well. Anyone there created a fire hazard. People knew it, too. There was just NOT enough space in the walkways to accomodate the fan audience for the photo shoot. Sure, it was way cool to be able to do it at the Gentle Giant booth. Having "Jabba" there was a fantastic touch. But, the whole lack of adequate space thing was just maddening (sp?).
Personally, I was there early & I was near the front of the area, ready to take pictures and video. However, because of the fire-code violation, I, along with many other fans, was told to move along. After moving along, MORE people filed in to take the prime spot I was at. After I finally made it back around to the area fronting Jabba, there were just WAY too many people packed in there. Get pics or video? Forget about it.
I think the idea of an organized Slave Leia group photo is great. I just hope that, at next Celebration, it will be held in a more ideal area.
Jay Tee
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P.S. Can't wait to see other peoples' photos of that group since I didn't get any of my own.
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Lowbacca_1977
Title: Senate Moderator
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Date Posted:
5/29/07 11:33pm
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I'm wondering how that looked myself, since I was helping a friend try to get her costume ready in time for that and we didn't get it ready in time.
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Armchair_Admiral
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Date Posted:
5/29/07 11:50pm
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I couldn't agree more with you JayTee. I was there at the photoshoot but I stood no chance of getting any good pics of the collection of ladies. Because I was forced to move around, I ended up in a poor spot where my camera couldn't do any good. While the Gentle Giant site could handle one Slave Leia at a time without massive problems, including multiple ones was just a disaster. I hope this experience will teach any event organizer to NEVER preform a large-scale photoshoot in such a narrow space.
My one saving grace was that I finally managed to weasel into a space where I could take pictures of some of the Leias when they went behind Jabba, and then I followed two Leia's (Christy and Amira) to a secondary shoot in a much-more more open area. At least some of my time spent at the Slave Leia shoot was not wasted in vain..... unless I fail to get my CIV pics uploaded onto the web. 
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Danpa_Wamem
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5/30/07 5:19am
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To me it was a bad idea to have it in the main exhibit hall right at the entrance ... there was not enough room for the all the "Leias" to move, much less room for anyone to take pictures (even though I did get a few  )
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banshee
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5/30/07 9:06am
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That "shoot" was a fiasco. I missed the Sideshow panel so that I could get some pics.
FAT CHANCE!
I was pushed up against the wall next to the door. I couldn't see anything. Had the shoot lasted an hour like the schedule said then maybe people could have moved in, gotten their pics and moved on, making room for the next person.
This goes to my one big complaint about the con, the exibit hall wasn't arranged properly. Gentle Giant, Hasbro, Sideshow and Starwars Shop should have been against the far walls. That would have helped with the lines a little better, especially if the autograph section had been moved next door with the fan activities. There would have been plenty of room then. I hope they do this for C5.
There were some guys up front taking pictures so I hope they post HI-REZ versions on line.
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Obey Wann
Title: Former RMFF CR
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Date Posted:
5/30/07 9:36am
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I was pretty livid about this as well. I was up front, in advance (about 1/2 hour), press pass and pro camera and all, ready to go. And I knew it would be a madhouse, and it was. It was extremely frustrating to be in position and ready to get some good pictures and be forced out by they guys in white, and the fire marshall. I am not blaming the 501st, and I feel bad that one of them got hit there, but it was poor planning at its best/worst.
My hat is off to the ladies that are willing to wear this costume. All we ask is that in the future, plan for a better location for the shoot. This is probably one of the singlemost popular events at the entire con, and in reality needs to be on a stage, with line management planned to move the photographers around past the stage, giving everyone a chance for a good series of close up shots.
(I have a similar complaint about how the 501st shoot went off, especially after how well the Rebel legion shoot went.)
Basically, all large group photo shoots, RL, 501st, Slave Leias, etc, all need to be in a place where there is good lighting, adequate space, and planned line management so that the masses can be moved through, allowing everyone the cance for a good picture. Holding it in the merchandise hall was a HUUUGE mistake.
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TheTempest
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Date Posted:
5/30/07 9:53am
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I'm not too worked up that I couldn't get a good photo of the Slave Leias. I'm more annoyed I couldn't get a good photo of the entire 501'st and that the fire officials wouldn't let them all be in one group.
About the Slave Leias though. I wasn't planning on even trying to get a shot becuase I knew it would be chaos, I walked to the exhibit hall to see and of course it was. So I walked up stairs and went in one of the rooms that has a window overlooking Jabba and I see about 14 Gen Con employees staring at the windows getting drool all over them and as I walk to the window to get a shot one of them (the worst and nerdiest I'm so cool employee that I'm sure you guys have run into, he never smiles, has blondish hair and is skinny) kicked me out. I said I just wanted a photo and he still kicked me out. It was very hard not to deck him at that point. I already can't stand most Gen Con employees, but this kid is the worst, I know many people have had problems with him.
Some GenCon employees are great. I even went in the back way to the theater hall and nobody was in there and they were testing stuff on the screen. As I walked in they said they were just testing stuff and I said oh ok, that's fine, and I sat down. It was nice of them because the convention security had the area blocked off, and the GenCon guys didn't care that I was in there. They even flipped through some Padme shots and the duel at the end of ep 2 for me.
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Underpaid_Soldier
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Date Posted:
5/30/07 11:28am
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So the 501st couldn't get a group shot like they did with the previous three Celebrations? If the LACC has more room, then why are the fire marshalls so worked up? Indy was literally elbow-to-elbow, yet they allowed group shots for at least a few minutes at a time.
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wendynat
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Date Posted:
5/30/07 11:48am
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Underpaid_Soldier posted:
So the 501st couldn't get a group shot like they did with the previous three Celebrations? If the LACC has more room, then why are the fire marshalls so worked up? Indy was literally elbow-to-elbow, yet they allowed group shots for at least a few minutes at a time.
The 501st got a group shot, just not on the main steps inside the Convention Center. We moved into an adjacent hall where the public could watch from the railings above, I think because it wasn't possible to block all the stairs and we also couldn't get people to "move along" so we'd even have room  . There might've been a fire marshall involved, but not sure, because the snowtroopers weren't on the steps when the TKs were pulled down.
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Darth_Nevoc
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Date Posted:
5/30/07 11:56am
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SilverJedi331 was one of the Slave Leias in the shoot and as her boyfriend I had the pleasure of escorting her around on Saturday. Gentle Giant let me hang out inside the booth while the shoot was going on. I didnt even bother trying to get around to the front to take a picture so I just waited around back, and took some video of the parade of them emerging from the booth interior. I'll post that once I can get all of my footage from Jedi's computer. We voiced our opinions to the GG employees the first day of the Con and they claimed that Jabba could be moved back, but we knew even that wouldnt be enough. Alas, Jabba held his ground and the cluster#$%* took place. People weren't even considerate. Nobody took a picture and "moved along". Everybody just stood their ground, gawking as though they'd never seen a scantily clad woman before (although judging from the caliber of folks I ran into there, i'm not surprised at all). I'm just glad to say that I got to take one of those Leia's back to the hotel with me that night while most of the rest of the con had to cope with whatever pictures or video they had taken.
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Lowbacca_1977
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Date Posted:
5/30/07 12:17pm
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Darth_Nevoc posted:
Nobody took a picture and "moved along". Everybody just stood their ground, gawking as though they'd never seen a scantily clad woman before (although judging from the caliber of folks I ran into there, i'm not surprised at all).
Neccessary to take a shot at all the convention goers?
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Darth_Nevoc
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5/30/07 12:24pm
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Lowbacca_1977 posted:
Darth_Nevoc posted:
Nobody took a picture and "moved along". Everybody just stood their ground, gawking as though they'd never seen a scantily clad woman before (although judging from the caliber of folks I ran into there, i'm not surprised at all).
Neccessary to take a shot at all the convention goers?
No, not all convention goers. Just a good chunk of them. Hell, even I'll admit, I gawked plenty.
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5/30/07 1:29pm
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Darth_Nevoc posted:
Nobody took a picture and "moved along". Everybody just stood their ground, gawking as though they'd never seen a scantily clad woman before (although judging from the caliber of folks I ran into there, i'm not surprised at all).
It's somewhat hard to "move along" when:
1. You're in the back and are struggling fruitlessly to get a good shot of all of the Leias. This task is harder for me especially as I'm somewhat shorter than most people. By the time I found a good place to take photos of at least a couple of the Leias behind Jabba, there's no bloody way I'd just "move along" due to my previous fustration.
2. You're also in front of everyone else. On a few occasions I've managed to get in a frontal position when a single Leia posed with Jabba, and it was often somewhat difficult for me to get out of there making my way through the other onlookers. Surely for the shoot itself, the difficulty to actually worm your way through crowds of less fortunate people became much, much wose. These people couldn't realistically "move along" either without pushing and shoving, so why bother?
Maybe if the fans with cameras were organized into a line so the staff and 501st could actually enforce the "move along" policy (which they really couldn't with a disorganized mob of onlookers), then everyone would have gotten a chance to snap pics of all the Slave Leias.
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Lowbacca_1977
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Ok... maybe this is just me at this point.... but is this all coming off rather like treating them just like objects and nothing else at this point, almost?
I mean, if there were problems with how things ran, I'd think the Leias themselves would be the ones with most right to be frustrated about the event, and while I'm always appreciative of a slave leia costume, its not something I'd think one should cause significant congestion over just to stare at further.
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Obey Wann
Title: Former RMFF CR
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5/30/07 1:40pm
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Armchair_Admiral posted:
Darth_Nevoc posted:
Nobody took a picture and "moved along". Everybody just stood their ground, gawking as though they'd never seen a scantily clad woman before (although judging from the caliber of folks I ran into there, i'm not surprised at all).
Maybe if the fans with cameras were organized into a line so the staff and 501st could actually enforce the "move along" policy (which they really couldn't with a disorganized mob of onlookers), then everyone would have gotten a chance to snap pics of all the Slave Leias.
That's exactly what I'm saying. They needed to do it for the Leia one, and for the 501st one with the people up on the rails above us. I'm going to make that recommendation to Britt for future mass photographs. It needs to be organized ahead of time, with the barricades in position long before the shoot starts.
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banshee
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Date Posted:
5/30/07 2:30pm
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Lowbacca_1977 posted:
Ok... maybe this is just me at this point.... but is this all coming off rather like treating them just like objects and nothing else at this point, almost?
I mean, if there were problems with how things ran, I'd think the Leias themselves would be the ones with most right to be frustrated about the event, and while I'm always appreciative of a slave leia costume, its not something I'd think one should cause significant congestion over just to stare at further.
It's no different than trying to get a group photo of the 501st or the Rebel Legion.
Although it sounds like they weren't a huge ******* like the Leia shoot.
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