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AaylaSecurOWNED
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6/10/07 7:19pm
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They weren't inviting us this time.  It's different.
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woppo
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I think the reason the 501st did not have a party for everyone at c4 was because there were no rooms big enough and cheap enough and close enough...
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GreyJedi
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No, they actually did not want any non-501st people at their party.
As a member of all three organizations, I asked around about doing a multi-club party. The reaction I received on the 501st boards was "No thanks; we only want 501st."
I don't mean to insult any of my fellow 501st members, but if you look back at the threads on the 501st boards you will see my topic of a multi-club party and the reaction of those who posted.
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lovelucas
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That is really, really ..unfortunate. I think it would be wise for ALL Star Wars fan clubs, be it costumers, bad guys, good guys etc to recognize we all need each other, especially now. There will be no place in the future for non-inclusion. With no new films (TV is not going to have the same impact), with George not even bothering to attend C4 (he was NOT filming Indy 4, he was at the Monte Carlo race in Monaco) - well, I think it's a real mistake for anyone, be it George, Rick, Steve, the 501st, the RL - to think SW fandom will continue in the same way without all of us mutually cooperating and respecting each other.
Yes, the 501st armor is cool but in my local area, they need us and we need them. All our charitable efforts need troopers and Jedi - the kids love all of Star Wars and we should too.
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ROTSFan
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Dark Lady Mara posted:
ROTSFan posted:
I think I understand a little bit of what's going on here, and it just hit me-Dawn's from Canada, and in Canada they tend to be a bit more pacifist and trusting. From what I understand they don't lock their doors and frown on useage of firearms.
Unfortunately, L.A.'s a bit different. Coming from California myself, I love people but pretty much have no trust for them until I get to know them. Dawn's just innocent.
LOL, what? If this is true, I'd better move to Canada immediately. Does it matter which part of Canada, or is the entire country the same? I just hope it doesn't turn me into a naive little child, though. 
Wow. I didn't mean to stir anything up, I certainly didn't expect to be quoted this much! I hope the naive little child wasn't a slam against me..  
Mokitty: Hey, hey....I wasn't trying to insult Canada-I wished I lived there! I hate my jaded view of life where I have to buy alarms, fear gangs and flick off fellow Californians in traffic. And Dawn is older than me-she's 31. I was trying to understand why she may have that viewpoint; that's all I've heard of Canada thus far (it's meant in a positive tone, though  )
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ROTSFan
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Lufta Shif posted:
ROTSFan: In regards to “Couldn't really find anything within walking distance”, I ate at La Bella Cucina a few times for lunch. It was in the same building as the Figueroa Hotel and kitty-corner to the Holiday Inn. Good, healthy food (great salads!), great prices, and relatively fast service for a sit-down place. Plus they were playing SW movies on their plasma TV each time we ate or walked by there. It was only a ten minute walk from the convention center. Nice way to have a relaxing lunch away from the crowds of the LACC food establishments. As for becoming a fan club member, yes – definitely do it for next time. Thursday (our free fan club day) was a great time!
Lufta Shif
 Wish I would have seen that then...we thought we'd save money from room service and ended up going to a restaurant by a food pavilion. We dropped $115 on dinner that night. The first clue it may be costly was when the waiter approached our table in a tuxedo and asked what type of water we'd like (?). I consider myself middle-upper class, but that was a new one.
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woppo
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GreyJedi posted:
No, they actually did not want any non-501st people at their party.
As a member of all three organizations, I asked around about doing a multi-club party. The reaction I received on the 501st boards was "No thanks; we only want 501st."
I don't mean to insult any of my fellow 501st members, but if you look back at the threads on the 501st boards you will see my topic of a multi-club party and the reaction of those who posted.
Is that why there were lots of guests there, Im not talking the invited stars but people who came with 501st members?
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AaylaSecurOWNED
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Well, I think spouses and immediate guests is a different beast than opening it up to the entirety of other groups. There were 200 people at the RL mixer alone, and if they had opened it up to all of the groups the party could have easily gotten out of hand in terms of size and cost. I really don't blame them for trying to keep it 'in the family' because as I'm sure GreyJedi can attest, it's a logistical nightmare to organize a party like this, much less trying to sustain communication across several groups.
Yeah, it's important to stick together as fans, but I don't think having an exclusive party for a club for one night of one convention is going to destroy the fandom.
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Mokitty
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6/11/07 10:09am
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ROTSFan posted:
Mokitty: Hey, hey....I wasn't trying to insult Canada-I wished I lived there! I hate my jaded view of life where I have to buy alarms, fear gangs and flick off fellow Californians in traffic. And Dawn is older than me-she's 31. I was trying to understand why she may have that viewpoint; that's all I've heard of Canada thus far (it's meant in a positive tone, though )
That's cool. 
It's just that what you said seems to be all a lot of people down there have heard of Canada so far. Over the years I've met several Americans (including a couple at CIV) who seemed to be under the impression once they found out I was Canadian that I came from some far-away, quaint, naive, backwards land of peace and happiness and rainbows and flowers where everyone holds hands and sings Kumbaya. I'm here to BUST DOWN THE MYTH!!
Maybe I seem a little touchy (maybe I am), but that's not my intent... I have at least as much pride in my country as any American has in theirs, and I want people to see my land for what it is. If people are going to have preconceptions about my country without visiting, I'd like them to at least have accurate preconceptions. So I'll educate them! In this case, that is to say, Canada is almost painfully like the United States (so much so that it irritates us quite a bit at times), but the few differences we have (such as tougher gun laws, more progressive laws for certain crimes, and universal social security/health care) are the things that really set us apart. Our worldview tends towards "Let's co-operate" rather than "Let's all be the same" (which it seems down there is more often framed as "Let's do this the right way"); this is why we appear to have no definitive culture, because our culture is actually defined by the presence and ability of many other cultures to thrive here. Where America is the "melting-pot", Canada is the "mosaic". And aside from that, we're pretty much the same!
I've met some Americans who roll their eyes at Canada because of their misconceptions and thinking we are so different. But we don't deserve it! I think most Americans would find themselves quite at home here, and really like our country!
Okay, that was way too much pep for this early in the day. I'm gonna put down the pom-poms and get back to work. 
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JediJustin
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One thing I will definitely do for C5 is figure out a method for attaching multiple badges to a single lanyard. With all the badges I had on (CIV admission badge, TF.N badge, RS badge, Force-Cast badge, and Amidala's custom Vader badge) and three different lanyards, things got quite messy around my neck. Plus, they would sway all over the place and kept facing backwards, which was an annoyance especially when I wanted a pic taken of me and some of the badges were backwards.
I'd like to find a way to have multiple badges tiered on one lanyard. I didn't want to just attach more than one badge to the same lanyard ring, as they would then overlap each other and not display too well.
That's my C5 (and C6) homework assignment.
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RebelGrrl
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6/11/07 1:56pm
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Craft store. Go to the jewelry-making section or to the kid's craft section. There are lanyard hooks on split rings for making keyrings. You should be able to work your lanyard through the split ring and attach multiple hooks in that fashion... and thus multiple badges.
You might also find these at Wal-Mart, sometimes.
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JediJustin
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Will do. Thanks for the heads-up, RebelGrrl.
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Lowbacca_1977
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6/11/07 3:52pm
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GreyJedi posted:
The Rebel Legion Mission Statement is almost exactly the same as the 501st.
My abject apologies for the RL Mixer; I promise never to do another one. If it helps, I paid $1000 out of my own pocket for more food and I will refund anyone their money if they are upset about the circumstances.
Regarding the 501st "street cred"; that is the reason they got a better party for less money. The Rebel Legion will always be second best and that is apparent from our treatment by the hotel.
My two cents on it, from the "was there as a FF person that wasn't part of RL" was just that I'd expected the FF portion that would be there, esp given it seemed a moderate #, to be included in a bit more, rather than my own personal feel, which was more just that we had permission to observe RL's stuff. Realise it was initially just a RL event, so its just as much my interpretations and expections there.
As for the catering issues... knowing that that was something paid for, personally I put the blame for that squarely on the hotel for my meal being just honeydew and potato chips
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lovelucas posted:
with George not even bothering to attend C4 (he was NOT filming Indy 4, he was at the Monte Carlo race in Monaco)
Really?!?
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GreyJedi
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Lowbacca_1977 posted:
My two cents on it, from the "was there as a FF person that wasn't part of RL" was just that I'd expected the FF portion that would be there, esp given it seemed a moderate #, to be included in a bit more, rather than my own personal feel, which was more just that we had permission to observe RL's stuff. Realise it was initially just a RL event, so its just as much my interpretations and expections there.
I would like to ask a question in return.
If FF wanted a big party, why didn't someone step up and plan it?
I'm not being mean, I'm asking an honest question. There is a complaint that FF wasn't invited to the 501st party and now a complaint that the RL Mixer was too "RL-oriented" (which I had already warned people of in the thread). Why not get a committee together to plan for a big FanForce Mixer/Dinner/Whatever for Celebration V? I'd certainly come.
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