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Lufta Shif
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2/22 8:02pm
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GrandAdmiralStrife posted:
And what about the money raised for Make-A-Wish?
Yes, this is the most disturbing part of the news. This makes me very angry that the foundation has not received any funds yet. 
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Moff_D
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2/23 6:19am
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If it indeed happened as the court case spells out (and if the bankruptcy protection is any indication), then GenCon was in some financial trouble and decided to keep the charity money (because they were somehow entitled to to make up for their shortfall according to them). LFL, waiting for GenCon to fulfil their obligations apparently decided to keep their payment for the booth at C4. Undoubtedly much has gone on behind the scenes that we won't know about. I suspect that from a LFL perspective the lawsuit has little to do with money but is rather an attempt to keep a good name when it comes to charitable donations and the like. There are many creative ways to "cook the books", so if C4 actually made $4 million than this problem wouldn't exist. It seems to come down to one of these options: GenCon was/is lying; GenCon is greedy; GenCon has been grossly mismanaged from a financial point of view.
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star-killer1
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JediJustin posted:
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ValedaKor
Title: C-IV RSA
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2/23 7:23am
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Moff_D posted:
It seems to come down to one of these options: GenCon was/is lying; GenCon is greedy; GenCon has been grossly mismanaged from a financial point of view.
From just the way they seemed to organize everything they've done for the Celebrations the company was involved in, I would subscribe to pretty much all three of these points of view. Especially the mismanaged one.
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jawajames
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2/23 5:27pm
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with the announcement of Celebration Japan, could it be that LFL is trying another con outfit out, as a tester.... if they can pull off C-Japan without a hitch, and have ability to do so in the US, C5 might have potential favorite...
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Dark Lady Mara
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2/23 11:10pm
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I wouldn't be surprised if mismanagement were more like it. The only thing here I would really be concerned about is the possibility that Make A Wish never got the money and fans were misled when they were told it was a charity auction. Other than that, it seems like typical LFL and typical Gen Con battling it out in a war of stereotypes...
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JediJustin
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2/24 5:19am
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jawajames posted:
with the announcement of Celebration Japan, could it be that LFL is trying another con outfit out, as a tester.... if they can pull off C-Japan without a hitch, and have ability to do so in the US, C5 might have potential favorite...
Hey, if the Lewis Daniel Group runs a successful CJ and LFL is pleased, more power to 'em.
I personally could care less which organization runs C5 - just as long as there IS a C5 to go to.
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joesdomain
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2/25 8:06am
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I think it is a battle between two companies trying to regain loses from a star wars celebration. Someone may have pocketed the money whether it be Lucasfilm or Gencon. The only people who will know are the lawyers for the 2 companies and the judge get together and hash it out. Maybe both companies need to be audited by the IRS to see if one or both companies committed fraud.
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GrandAdmiralStrife
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2/25 8:46am
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joesdomain posted:
I think it is a battle between two companies trying to regain loses from a star wars celebration. Someone may have pocketed the money whether it be Lucasfilm or Gencon. The only people who will know are the lawyers for the 2 companies and the judge get together and hash it out. Maybe both companies need to be audited by the IRS to see if one or both companies committed fraud.
Um, how could LFL have pocketed any money when GenCon was running the whole thing? 
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ValedaKor
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Yep, this is definitely a GenCon problem. Let's wait for further developments.
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pwinklespi
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2/25 12:35pm
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I would have to say that if thee were a CV, it needs to be on a smaller scale. This Celebration was huge. You had to walk a mile from one end to the other just to see something. They could still do CV but in a smaller venue. Keep the same ideas with the store. More registers and more room. Autograph hall was fine , but the part where they had that life sized X wing was a waste of space. They could have crammed everything in that room into somewhere else.
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joesdomain
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2/25 12:38pm
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Gencon had to pay Lucasfilm ahead of time since they had a contract with them. Just about everyone who uses the star wars name has to have a contract with Lucasfilm and pay money to use it. Lucasfilm at least got some money out of it. If L.A. convention Center is one of the top 2 or 3 convention centers in the U.S. size wise then why did they have 35,000 people show up. Indiana Convention Center had 30,000 for CIII and 25,000-26,000 people show up for CII and it was half the size. I think that is where they lost the money. They should doubled their money with a convention center twice the size of Indy and they did not. I think that may be part of the problem also.
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GrandAdmiralStrife
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2/25 12:45pm
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Ok, that I understand. I misunderstood your ealier post, and thought you were referring to the missing Make-a-Wish funds.
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JarJarJedi
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2/25 12:50pm
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Kyle Katarn posted:
This could complicate things quite a bit. Dunno if we'll be on track for a April/May/June CV, but then news for CIV was sparse and almost non-existant until April or May of '06, so we still have some time if they want to do something for '09.
Personally, I'd be more in favor of soing something for '10 to conincide with the 30th anniversary of ESB, but at this point, I'd just be happy to see another one come up before too long.
Agreed. '10 would be a much better option for CV, since CI was for TPM anyways. (No matter how good or bad it was, there was still one for it.) ESB and ROTJ need their Celebrations.
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