Author Topic: The Basher Focus Group Welcome Thread. Please Read
DarthSapient 
Registered: Jun '01
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Date Posted: 6/8/06 9:36am Subject: RE: The Basher Focus Group Welcome Thread. Please Read
My opinion is also locking the sanctuary was not a mistake and it has overall positive systemic benefits for that forum and the site as a whole.

 

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ShaneP 
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Date Posted: 6/8/06 10:31am Subject: RE: The Basher Focus Group Welcome Thread. Please Read
strilo
Honestly man did you not read my posts bashing ROTJ a little?

Bashing ROTJ? I'm there! dancing


 

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Darth-Stryphe 
Title: In time you will call me Saga Manager!
Registered: Apr '01
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Date Posted: 6/8/06 10:51am Subject: RE: The Basher Focus Group Welcome Thread. Please Read
Are you saying that bashing can, in the context of a "compared to the golden age", take place in the GA thread?

Sure, why not? You're talking about how great the O-OT is by doing so, right? That's on-topic.

 

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malkieD2 
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Date Posted: 6/8/06 1:51pm Subject: RE: The Basher Focus Group Welcome Thread. Please Read
ShaakRider posted:
G-FETT posted:
Out of interest, how long do we have with this Focus Group, until we have to start looking at winding it up and coming with the a few conclussions?


Counclusions? Well, here's mine:
The Basher Sanctuary was closed, based on some nearly-nonsensical reasoning. A Focus Group was created to sort out the problems leading to, and generated (or brought to surface) by this decision.

A group of users was deeply offended by this move, and left the site, yet Sape and Strilo seem to be unwilling to even consider, that it might have been a bad decision. (Note, I'm not talking of reopening the Sanctuary, just merely admitting, that closing it might have been a mistake).

We all agreed (except maybe Patrick, he was way to angry, and noone can blame him for it), that we should get rid of preconceptions and stereotypes.
Considering that in the comms thread most of the accusations against the BS were no more than stereotypes, and the "basher persecution" is supposedly also a preconception (or misperception, whatever), this sounded like a great idea. But then, after some distantly hopeful start, Rhonda and Patrick succesfully confirmed each other's preconceptions, and disappeared. And kudos to Rhonda for at least trying, RebelScum didn't even bother that much.

The administration seems to propose constructivity and productivity, but so far the only discussion that proved somewhat productive, is the "special constructive criticism" thread, but even that admittedly isn't a solution.

Then G-Fett asks for conclusions.

So my conclusion: this FG was practically useless so far, and all of this speaks volumes of the benevolence of the administration, and managed to "reinforce" those "barriers" we were supposed to break down. And you can be sure, that the guys over there, in the new BS will jump to lot worse conclusions than me.




What about working on this stuff some more, so that we can come to a different conclusion?

EDIT: sorry G-FETT, i got you wrong, just read the end of the previous page
But the rest still stands.



You know, to be honest, the conclusion of the FG could be that no conclusions were reached. This is a complex problem, and the perfect solution was never promised at any point.

Thing is, we all like the website, and hence want to find a solution, and doing everything we all can.

I dunno, maybe there's merit in my two forums idea, maybe not. At least in the published conclusions we include the possible solutions we discussed, and their good and bad points.

 

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Darth-Stryphe 
Title: In time you will call me Saga Manager!
Registered: Apr '01
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Date Posted: 6/8/06 4:21pm Subject: RE: The Basher Focus Group Welcome Thread. Please Read
Could you go over that two forum idea again? I seem to have missed (or forgotten) it.


So my conclusion: this FG was practically useless so far, and all of this speaks volumes of the benevolence of the administration, and managed to "reinforce" those "barriers" we were supposed to break down. And you can be sure, that the guys over there, in the new BS will jump to lot worse conclusions than me.

Oh, they already have and there is really nothing we can do about that at this point. Be that as it may, I'm very appreciative of those of you in the basher community who have stuck around and are trying to push things forward in a positive direction. Special nods to ShaneP, ShaakRider and Binary.

The secret here which I have tried to say so many times to so many people is this doesn't have to be a "catastrophy", it could be an opportunity. But you have to think of it as an opporunity. You'll find the mods very agreeable and responsive to that approach.

 

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