ShaneP posted:Cryogenic, we've been over that already. Don't get everyone stirred up again.
Binary_Sunset posted:Cryogenic wrote of some of LSHB's statements: "a negative indictment of a commonly-maligned aspect stated as fact." That is just the way all people talk. For example, you mentioned "Another weighted statement in a separate post!", without noting that it was your opinion. You stated your opinion as fact, and so you should. Otherwise we'd all be posting unreadable posts such as: In my opinion Anakin's turn in ROTS isn't believable. In my opinion his turn came out of nowhere. In my opinion he did not show any signs of such a radical change earlier in the movie. In my opinion it doesn't make sense that Anakin would so easily turn on the same Jedi he'd been a part of for years. In my opinion it doesn't make sense that he'd join Sidious because, in my opinion, he must have known that Sidious was the one behind the Trade Federation. In my opinion, that means that Anakin would also know that Sidious tried to have Padme killed. In my opinion...ad nauseum. Further, LSHB's posts (in my opinion ) are the most fun to read of anyone on the board. More than any single poster, ever, he affords me the most fun I've ever had on the boards. Isn't that what the boards are about? SW-themed fun? Not all SW fans all the time want to write serious disquisitions on SW. Sometimes we just want to have fun. If someone's feelings get hurt because someone else doesn't like something that he does, well then he needs to grow up and realize that's the way the world works. If someone doesn't like my favorite movie (the 1977 SW film), I just figure that's his problem. I would never dream of getting offended if someone said, for example, that "Luke is whiney", or "the special effects suck", that "it's boring", etc.
That_Wascally_Droid posted:Do I have a problem with Binary's critique? No. I thought it was funny. The fact that he apparently didn't mean gimpy maliciously adds much to the humor.
Binary_Sunset posted:That_Wascally_Droid posted:Do I have a problem with Binary's critique? No. I thought it was funny. The fact that he apparently didn't mean gimpy maliciously adds much to the humor. True. The joke's on me now. I'll forever after be known as the librarian with the English degree who didn't even know the proper meaning of the word "gimpy". I guess it was the superficial similarity of the spelling of "gimpy" with the spellings of "goofy" and "geeky". Obviously I was confused by all those 5-letter words starting with G and ending with Y.
ShaakRider posted:The Golden Age Society could, in theory, work, if it were offered before, or rather without the "slap in the face". The reason I don't think it will ever work - for those who left - is that they have the whole history of the great basher-gusher wars behind them. Judging by your registration date, you probably weren't around during that, so you might not realize, how much resentment accumulated on each "sides", and resurfaced now. Closing he Sanctuary might not be inherently wrong, if carried out tactfully, if this discussion we're supposed to be having now took place before the decision was made, if the reasoning behind it weren't founded mostly on stereotypes, but in the manner it was done it's worse than just a slap in the face, and the ones who made it could have known this. That said, we "bashers" have our own stereotypes as well, and that doesn't help either.
ShaneP posted:Binary_Sunset posted: "Cryogenic wrote of some of LSHB's statements: "a negative indictment of a commonly-maligned aspect stated as fact." That is just the way all people talk. For example, you mentioned "Another weighted statement in a separate post!", without noting that it was your opinion. Cryogenic, see the problem? It works both ways. That was part of the problem with rhonderoos post you're quoting from.
ShaneP posted:Binary Further, LSHB's posts (in my opinion) are the most fun to read of anyone on the board. More than any single poster, ever, he affords me the most fun I've ever had on the boards. Isn't that what the boards are about? SW-themed fun? I agree.
ShaneP posted:Cryogenic Thanks for the lesson. Can I go home now, sir? Doesn't sound like you too are adhering much to rhonderoos request for civility and a good tone.
ShaneP posted:Cryogenic This isn't about one's opinions on the films -- as rhonderoo rightly stated. But Leia's Starboard Hair Bun, willfully or accidentally, injected a cynical flavour into one of his posts. Wait. First you said it was wrong of him to say those things about the films....that's why you put them in bold. Now, you're saying something completely different. Which one is it?
ShaneP posted:Cryogenic This went unchallenged. Personally, I found it disingenuous. If someone cannot extend the common courtesy to others of keeping their subjective preferences for the films out of a discussion where they have no place, certainly not in the manner that Leia's Starboard Hair Bun was giving them, then I don't think they deserve to be here or even to be listened to. I just see it as typical of hardcore bashers wanting to flaunt rules -- "Typical of bashers to flaunt the rules"...now that's a misconception. stryphe told us when we started this we should lay it all out. If you have a problem with the rules, go to him or another mod.
Leia's Starboard Hair Bun posted:I'm sorry to kick off the first of my major contributions with what looks like malice and the targeting of one person, but when comments like this are being made, especially after an admin implored people to leave their personal grievances of the films -- for the purposes of these "Focus Group" discussions -- at the door, I feel that some people are looking for trouble. This kind of stuff isn't helpful. It's pure antagonism and needs to stop. I realise that that all seems rather simple and condescending, perhaps even in the extreme, but there are honestly people who think like this, and if the fallacies displayed in Leia Starboard Hair Bun's posts are anything to go by, he is guilty of behaving in a similar fashion. Just look at those examples: they are flagrant strawmen. Bashers already have ample room to contribute. But, like Anakin, they want more. Priceless.
ShaneP posted:Okay, that's better Cryogenic.
ShaneP posted:Not a bad thought about a satirical prequel thread?
ShaneP posted:I like the idea of a thread dedicated to satirical and/or humorous stuff. But I'd also want it to allow profanity. You could always make it invite-only to keep the rugrats away.
