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Jabbadabbado
Title: Senate Floor Moderator
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2/24 5:18am
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"If you're new and go there, it's understandably more intimidating and I don't know that there's anything you can do about that."
I agree with this and accept it as an entirely natural thing. I don't necessarily believe it's a problem that the JCC has to overcome. If someone is motivated, they'll jump in anyway.
The good news is that Star Wars remains an active "brand" despite the end of the PT. It's bustin out all over the place in various media. That will bring in new people who will work their way to the JCC. The JCC must now be one of the oldest online communities on the web. It's an amazing accomplishment. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the JCC's unique community style. It continues to evolve, people still come and go. It may be daunting for newcomers, and there may be ways to address that, but it's not a fatal flaw and certainly nothing should be done that sacrifices the JCC's unique qualities.
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Souderwan
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2/24 7:52am
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Spiderfan posted:
Souderwan posted:
I can honestly say that there's only one person on the boards that gets under my skin
It's me isn't it?!  I'm sorry Brian I will do better!!
You better! >:O
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solojones
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Well, actually Jabbadabadoo, the JC is really old, the JCC is a little younger  But yeah, I think we have a large number of people who have been here consistently for 4, 5, 8 years. That's as much as twice as long as people spend in important social groups like high school 
I want to add that I love JCC games. Sleepy Tower was one of the most fun things I've done on here (hey Rachel!  ) Those should continue to be encouraged/approved.
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Lank_Pavail
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2/24 12:13pm
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3 aspects of the JCC that you believe are good
-There is a looseness which is very nice. It is as it should be, a place to BS a little
-I've made some good friends here, and generally get along with most folk
-Some honest discussion going on, like the Primaries thread. Haven't noticed any serious problems, and generally, everyone seems to be getting along or at least, not throwing around 'liberal' and 'conservative' like they're insults.
3 aspects you personally don't like about it
-My spelling, it's just terrible! 
Okay, seriously
-There is a feeling of 'cliquishness' that is a bit of a turn off. But that's natural. We take pride in the groups we're part of. Heck my own sig shows my pride in the groups I associate with. THat's part of life.
-I'm guilty of this one: a little good-natured mocking gone too far. Sometimes I do like to tweak for what I see as pompous behavior. On the other hand, I've interacted with him virtually since I joined, and I was quite concerned when he went in for his procedure last year. I've cut back, one because I don't interact with him as much, and 2) because I'm trying to be more mindful of others feelings
-taking our self-mockery of our geekdom a bit far. Sometimes, and this is a general thing as well, people do go a little far with the self-irony.
3 things that just drive you batcrap crazy
-harassment of any kind. Look, I'm heard of the theory of Internet ****wad therory, and I've seen it in practice. It's gonna happen, but it needs to be dealt with quickly and consistently. Those who would troll eventually get tired of trying and move onto other places, and those ho crossed a line learn where it is and might not cross it anymore.
-Intolerance, (again referring to the theory) I have serious disagreements about religion, and politics. But insulting the poster who disagrees with you does nothing but make you look stupid.
I'm i the midst of classwork, but I'll think on anything else that drives me loony later.
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Crash_Davis
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2/25 5:20am
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3 aspects of the JCC that you believe are good
-The variety of people here. It's very easy to make friends here, and I have made many good ones.
-The diverse culture. It's always interesting to read/hear about people, places and things halfway around the world.
-The Geriatric Ward: It's nice to have a place to go where we can talk about our kids, jobs, etc, and be with people who are in the same general situation; parenting, etc. Sometimes it's just easier to talk with someone from your generation as opposed to someone who's 15 years younger than you!
3 aspects you personally don't like about it
-The clique-type atmosphere. It can be very daunting when you're a noob. Even when you've been here a while you tend to feel excluded at times.
-Threads such as "Two Girls One Cup, et al. How threads like that and their ilk were/are allowed to continue for as long as they do just amaze me.
-The "Please Help With My Homework" threads.
3 things that just drive you batcrap crazy
I can't really say there's anything here that drives me that crazy. I have a very laid-back type personality, so I tend not to take anything here to heart.
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Jabbadabbado
Title: Senate Floor Moderator
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2/25 12:22pm
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Well, there you go. I'd never heard of the "geriatric ward." That might be just the thing for an old fart like me.
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Crash_Davis
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Yes! All old farts are welcome! Bring your own Depends, though!
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GIMER
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2/25 1:23pm
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I'm going to do this without
3 aspects of the JCC that you believe are good
-I like the themed events. They add some flavor and variety to what could become very boring some days.
-I like the loosening up a bit on the parody threads without letting them going overboard. I think some of the most fun days were when there were parody sprees that weren't mean or hurting anybody, but just silly. First of all I think of the JCC as my Chuck E Cheese, where you can have fun, and need to make sure you aren't hurting anyone.
-I like keeping certain things contained to one thread, like fecal force, or sports, etc..
3 aspects you personally don't like about it
-I don't like having to look at the pokemon banner, but I still think it is funny.
-I don't really have too many issues.
3 things that just drive you batcrap crazy
-Days when there seem to be nobody on. (Don't know how you can directly fix that)
-OPPM after being in the BB house
-I'll add more if I think of them.
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AaylaSecurOWNED
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3 aspects of the JCC that you believe are good
-It's a place where I feel extremely comfortable to be myself. Not to get cheesy, but last semester I was having trouble making friends at my new school (how old am I?!) and it was nice to be able to come home from class every day and actually have a group of friends I am comfortable with to turn to.
-The fact that it is smaller than it used to be. Some days (see below) it is a bit too slow, but I like the feel of a smaller community where I recognize most of the names posting and even know a bit about the person behind the screen name.
-Camaraderie, even with people I don't generally 'e-hang out with.' Because we all have a common interest, there's a deeper bond, so that even if I think someone is weird most of the time, I will find myself agreeing with them in threads like the Fanboys movie thread.
3 aspects you personally don't like about it
-Some of the rules seem onerous and pointless. I know that one of the major ones (wth) is a mandate from the owners, but there are some times that I take a step back and say "really?" at a rule being enforced.
-Some days/times it slows to a crawl. I can read and post in three or four threads over 15 minutes and then find that I have the four latest posts in the forum. And not just in the middle of the night! Sometimes in the afternoon.
3 things that just drive you batcrap crazy
-Pulsie said it first, but GOOOOOOOO SCIENCE!!! makes me want to hold Stephen Hawking hostage.
-When people get all Senate-y. I don't think serious discussion should be excluded from JCC, but there is a distinctive style to Senate posting that sometimes shines through in threads that are supposed to be, or started out as, extremely stupid or fluffy.
umm, that's all I got for now.
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MASTERPRENN
Title: JCC Man.
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2/25 6:19pm
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I'll give this a shot.
3 aspects of the JCC that you believe are good
1. The humor. It's just fun to post there, most of the time.
2. The size, relative to the other forums. I'd like it to be bigger, but when compared to the rest of the forums, it's really a nice size.
3. Fun people, who you don't tend to see elsewhere on the theforce.net.
3 aspects you personally don't like about it
1. I'll echo the cries of "cliquishness". As a relatively new user, and one who's not really in the "in" group, I have to admit that the general feel of a high school social hierarchy does bug me, at times. Now, I really don't see how this can be changed, other than the members of the JCC being aware of it and trying to keep it in check. It seems pretty natural and I don't think it's really that big of a deal, but as far as growth of the community goes, I can see it being somewhat detrimental to the amount of new people who are inclined to start posting there and then stick around to become a part of the community.
2. Somebody earlier said it really well when they said that for new users, if you don't have a shtick or a sharp sense of humor or something else, you're not going to really find the great community that a lot of people do find, and I think that's a bummer. Again, not really sure how to fix it, as it seems to be the kind of change that has to come from the users, but it's worth noting.
3. I second the locking of parody threads. I think it's good, clean fun, and as long as it remains good clean fun, it should be allowed.
3 things that just drive you batcrap crazy
1. The fact that we can't have a serious thread or discussion without it turning into personal attacks and flame wars.
2. The aforementioned lack of a pancakes and waffles forum
That's all I've got.
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Darrkwolff
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MASTERPRENN posted:
1. The fact that we can't have a serious thread or discussion without it turning into personal attacks and flame wars.
NIAWYC. I think that stems from what I mentioned earlier, about the intolerance that tends to surface in such threads.
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3 aspects of the JCC that you believe are good
1. To echo what so many other people have said, I love the people here, the friends I've made, the sense of community, blah blah blah. Seriously, I heart all you guys. 
2. I like the pace and the humor, and generally just the ability to keep me entertained/help me procrastinate. I so often laugh myself silly while sitting at my computer that I think my roommate is seriously beginning to wonder about me...
3. The balance of the serious with the silly. I think it works. I rarely post anywhere other than the JCC because I don't really feel that there is anything missing. For me.
3 aspects you personally don't like about it
1. The tendency for serious debates to degenerate into personal attacks on users whose beliefs are different. I guess in general just bigotry/intolerance. Not sure what can be done about it, though.
2. The locking of parody threads, since they will all eventually just die out on their own anyway. Seems pointless.
3. The drama/gossip that seems to go on behind the scenes, which I have only recently become aware of.
3 things that just drive you batcrap crazy
1. The insistence that THERE ARE NO WIMMEN ON TEH INTERNETS!!1! and the PPOR response every time I state that I am, in fact, female. Just a personal thing. Attempts to convince the majority of the JCC of that fact also tends to look like attention-whoring.
2. I am also rather sick of the GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Science! threads.
3. I guess also pictures of scantily-clad women that show up places other than the Hottie Wars thread, for example. I'm all for keeping those in one place.
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solojones
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2/25 11:09pm
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Oh yeah, the scantily clad pictures of women when they become too proliferated outside the hottie wars thread can be annoying. I think the guys would get annoyed if we were going around posting pictures of men in thongs...
-sj loves kevin spacey
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MASTERPRENN
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Date Posted:
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The difference being, of course, that there are no wimmin on the internetz, therefore anybody who is offended by said pictures is just doing so for dramatic effect.
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Souderwan
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lol!
Oh. I thought I'd pop in and say that I have no problem with the Gooooo Science threads. They are actually the only VLM threads I click on 'cause there's a 70% chance that there'll be something interesting in there, vice the 85% chance that he's bashing Republicans/Bush/etc in a thread that doesn't say goooo science.
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