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LordHoban
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That Anakin is a little too powerful as is. But they are working on that. It's a neat idea, but late game, he is especially powerful with tracking (average power of 9-11, easy). That's why I suggested, if keeping the destiny draw text, knock his power down to 2, so his maximum power would be 9, and that's a 7 drawn.
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Welcome to the thread spooky_21. We're in the middle of playtesting revisions with the hope of having a new playtest 2.0 version available after the slew of suggested revisions. If you interested in seeing the current playtest cards check this link. They are in the process of being revised with hopefully a version 2.0 playtest file being available in the not too distant future.
R'Bolts File Sharing Page
We have been working on 3 separate expansions. Heart of the Republic is the first. It will be followed by Kamino and later Geonosis. We also have the expectation of putting together an enhanced_expanded universe type release as well. Many of your card suggestions appear to be aimed at Geonosis. You'd be surprised to see what we've put together already, I suspect. Regretably I don't have any spoiler text files or playtest files that you could check out for the later expansions at the moment.
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Shewski
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Any new items on this front?
2nd is still mulling over changes, right?
What about the big two, Speeder Chase and Love Objective? Any new throughts?
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I'm picking up on the next "page" of suggested revisions, to get the "minor stuff" out of the way, before tackling the objectives and speeder chase cards.
Though, Hoban and others seem to feel speeder chases are too close to podracing; but I feel we can modify the outcome benefits to make it a little more acceptable.
For example, making speeder chase support cards serve a valuable dual-purpose so people might want to have a couple in their deck even if they're not chasing- which they could then use during a chase if the opponent presents one.
Also, perhaps doing something else besides force/loss/retrieval, like, perhaps, Bounty Hunter deployment or battle bonuses...make it almost act as a support function for the assasisnation objective for the darkside, the trade off being that it's card intensive and creates more Coruscant sites for Padme and Anakin/JP to avoid BH's or assassins with before jumping ship to Naboo. For the lightside, well, I'm still thinking about what they could get.
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I like the idea of making the speeder support cards having a universal use. Very good.
I also like the outline of what you want to see with the speeder chases.
For the DS, maybe some thing like "Once per turn, if your BH or Assassin is participating in a battle, for each weapon and/or battle destiny draw, may use 1 Force to draw twice and choose one."
For the LS, I'd like to see something to represent the Jedi cracking down on crime. Maybe something like "All opponent's characters must use +1 Force to deploy, use personal landspeed, and fire a weapon."
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BTW- to avoid confusion on cards between Jedi Protector and Anakin Skywalker, Jedi Protector, I'm suggesting we rename the Anakin card to:
*Anakin Skywalker, Young Padawan
This way cards like R2 won't suggest their text targets only the HOTR Anakin.
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Alrighty, revisions part 2.
*Across The Stars
Destiny: 5
Lore: "You might say, that we are encouraged to love..."
Used or Lost Interrupt
USED: Once per game, stack one card from hand on Forbidden Love. LOST: Once per game, place top card on Forbidden Love out of play to retrieve force equal to that card's destiny number.
*Anakin's Lightsaber
Destiny: 1
Character Weapon
Lore: Frequently misplaced or damaged weapon of Anakin Skywalker, who tries not to lose it.
Gametext: Use 2 force to deploy on any Skywalker (or Jedi Protector), free if Anakin. May target a character or transport vehicle for free. Draw two destiny. Target hit (or 'crashed' if vehicle), and forfeit=0, if total destiny > defense value.
(note card title change: )
*Anakin Skywalker, Young Padawan
Destiny: 0
Lore: Student of Obi-Wan Kenobi. Haunted by dreams of his mother. Would much rather dream about Padme.
Power: 2+X
Ability: 5
Icons: Warrior, Pilot
Deploy: 6
Forfeit: 7
Gametext: May not deploy if [Death Star 2 expansion icon] objective on table. Deploys only to Coruscant (may immediately [deploy from reserve deck X icon]Padme). Adds 3 to power of anything he pilots. If at same site, Padme may not be targeted by weapons. X= one destiny. Immune to attrition < 5.
*Betrayal
Destiny:4
Lore: Assassins and bounty hunters understand that when they accept their high stakes assignments that they must also take the risk of becoming expendable pawns.
Used or Lost Interrupt
Gametext: USED: If you've just won a battle an opponent's bounty hunter or assassin participated in, cancel any attrition against you. LOST: Once per game, if opponent has two or more bounty hunters or assassins at the same site, opponent must choose one to be lost.
*Corde’s Sacrifice
Destiny: 2
Lore: Corde was willing to give her life to foil assassination attempts. Her sacrifice was not in vain.
Light Side Common Used or Lost Interrupt
Gametext: USED: Use 2 Force to prevent any character or starship just deployed by opponent from battling or moving for the remainder of this turn. LOST: Cancel opponent’s just played interrupt that adds one or more battle destinies.
*Coruscant: City Depths
(exterior)
LS: [1 icon] While in battle, your vehicles power here is equal to their maneuver +1 (+2 if Anakin present).
DS: [1 icon] While in battle, your vehicles power here is equal to their maneuver (+1 if Zam present).
*Coruscant: Dexter's Diner
(interior)
LS: [2 icons] Once per game, may [deploy from reserve deck X icon]Dex here. Your Diner Patrons here may add 1 to P.
DS: [1 icon] Your Diner Patrons here may add 1 to P.
*Coruscant: Executive Quarters Building
LS: [1 icon] Force drain +1 if you have total politics >4 here.
DS: [0 icon] If you control, your [presence icon] droids are destiny+2.
*Dexter Jettster
Destiny: 3
Lore: Besalisk information broker who owns Dexter’s Diner. Helped Obi-wan find out about Kamino when the archives could not. Hates duracrete slugs.
Deploy: 4
Forfeit: 3
Power: 4
Ability: 2
Armor: 4
Gametext: Deploys free to Dexter’s Diner. While at Dexter’s Diner, doubles P for your Diner Patrons present, and if present with Obi-wan, once per game may [deploy from reserve deck X icon]Kamino. Duracrete slugs at same site are immediately lost.
***Diner Patron
Destiny: 1
Lore: Little did the hungry diner patron know, the conversation in the next booth would lead to the thwarting of a sinister plot.
Power: P
Ability: 1
Deploy: 2
Forfeit: 1
Gametext: Deploys -2 to Dexter's Diner, Dining Room, Cantina or Outlander Club. P=number of diner patrons at same site. Power = P. Attrition against you is reduced by P. Imuune to attrition < P.
*Go Home And Rethink Your Life
Destiny: 6
Lore: "I want to go home and rethink my life..."
Lost Interrupt
Gametext: Target an opponent’s alien of ability < 3 without a permanent weapon present with your Jedi. Both players draw destiny. Add 1 to your total for each of your Jedi at same site. If your total > target’s ability + opponent’s destiny, target crosses over (place target in your Used Pile).
*Hermione Bagwa
Alien
Destiny: 1
Lore: Waitress at Dexter's Diner. Grew up in the Coruscant underlevels. Feels fortunate to be working on the surface now. Aspires to be a musician.
Power: 1
Ability: 2
Deploy: 2
Forfeit: 3
Gametext: Once per turn, may use Y force to add Y to P on your Diner Patrons (limit 3). Once during each of your deploy phases, may [take into hand from reserve deck X icon]Blue Milk, Jawa Juice or Juri Juice.
*I'd Much Rather Dream About Padme
Destiny: 4
Lore: "I don't know why I can't stop dreaming about her."
Used or Lost Interrupt
Gametext: USED: Cancel Dreams Pass In Time OR Once per game, if Padme not at same site as Anakin, place one card from hand face up on Forbidden Love. LOST: Activate 2 force to [take into hand X icon]Padme. Padme may not deploy this turn.
*Jedi Consultation
Destiny: 4
Lore: The Jedi Order rarely acts on emotional impulses, instead relying on their logic and wisdom to choose the best course of action.
Lost Interrupt
Gametext: Use 2 force to cancel a battle where you have two or more Jedi present. OR If you have two or more Jedi at Upper Ledge or Chancellor's Office, use 4 force to add 2 to the power of all your Jedi on table for remainder of turn.
*Master Yoda, Jedi Instructor
Character- Jedi Master
Destiny: 5
Lore: Jedi Council member. "My own council will I keep on who is to be trained."
Power: 3
Ability: 7
Deploy: 4
Forfeit: 7
Gametext: "May not deploy to Dagobah. Adds 3 to training destiny draws. Non-unique younglings at same site are forfeit+1 and may not be targeted by weapons. Immune to attrition."
*R2-D2, Sentry
Destiny: 0 or 6
Lore: R2-D2 was given the responsibility of guarding Amidala from the threat of a potential assassination while she slept in her Coruscant apartment.
Power: 1
Astromech Droid
Deploy: 4
Forfeit: 5
Astromech Icon
Gametext: Deploys free to Amidala's Apartment or same site as Amidala. May [deploy from reserve deck X icon] R2's Laserfield Sensors. Anakin, Jedi Protector or Obi-Wan may deploy -2 to same site as R2 (-3 as a react). Assassins and bounty hunters are deploy+2 to same or adjacent site.
*Representative Binks
Destiny: 1
Lore: After the Battle of Naboo, Jar Jar came to join Senator Amidala as a representative of Naboo in the senate after riding a wave of popularity to his election.
Power: 3
Ability: 3
Politics: 3
Warrior
Deploy: 2
Forfeit: 3
Gametext: Deploys free to the same site as Amidala. May be placed in Used Pile from hand or table to [take into hand X icon] Amidala. If Amidala is about to be lost from same site, you may lose Representative Binks instead.
*Strength in the Force
Destiny: 3
Lore: Young Jedi spend their initial training in clans, instructed by a single Jedi Master. Strong bonds in the force are often forged between the members of these clans.
Lost Interrupt
Gametext: Add X to the power and defense value of every Jedi Youngling at a site, where X= total number (-1) of Jedi Younglings present. If Yoda present, also add X to each of their forfeit.
***The Red Guard
Destiny: 2
Lore: Trained in secret, this protection force is placed under Palpatine's direct authority to supplement the senatorial Blue Guard.
Character: Republic
Power: 2
Ability: 1
Armor: 3
Deploy: 2
Forfeit: 2
Warrior Icon
Gametext: Deploys free to the same site as [episode 2 icon] Palpatine. If present, Palpatine may not be targeted by weapons. Power and forfeit +1 for each other Red Guard at same site. Once per turn, may [take into hand X icon] Force Pike.
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Assassination Target
Destiny: 5
Lore: Assassins and bounty hunters have many tools at their disposal for tracking and taking out their targets.
Effect
Gametext: Deploy on any Mark. Bounty hunters and assassins deploy -2 to adjacent sites. Opponent may not target Mark with Nabrun Leids or Odin Nesloor. When your assassin or bounty hunter targets Mark with a weapon, add 1 to weapon destiny.
*Bogg Tyrell
Destiny: 1
Lore: A diner patron who hails from the famous Tyrell family. Supports anti-podracing foundations.
Power: 1
Ability: 1
Deploy: 2
Forfeit: 1
Gametext: Your Diner Patrons at same site may now add P to their forfeit. Twice per game, if at Outlander Nightclub or Podrace Arena, may cancel an opponent's just drawn race destiny.
***Diner Patron
Destiny: 1
Lore: Dining locations draw a wide range of species to their doors as patrons. The food, however, tastes just as bad to every one of them.
Power: 0
Ability: 1
Deploy: 2
Forfeit: 1
Icons: Warrior
Gametext: Deploys -2 to Dexter's Diner, Dining Room, Cantina or Outlander Nightclub. P=number of diner patrons at same site. Power = P. Attrition against you is reduced by P. Imuune to attrition < P.
Duracrete Slug
Destiny: 5
Creature
Lore: Slug-like creature that lives in the underlevels of Coruscant and other supermetropolises. Eats duracrete. Considered a pest by city builders and maintainence crews.
Deploy: 2
Forfeit: 0
Ferocity: 0
Slime: 2
Gametext: Habitat: Coruscant sites. Can not be attacked. 'Eats' (suspends) one (LS) and one (DS) at same site (may not fall below zero). If four or more Duracrete Slugs at same INTERIOR site at the end of opponent's turn, that site is 'collapsed' (immediately lose two slugs at site).
*Hired Assassin
Destiny: 4
Lost Interrupt
Lore: "It's just a job."
Gametext: Use 3 Force to either reveal opponent’s hand or the top 5 cards from their Reserve Deck (your choice). Any senators found there are immediately lost. Place all other cards into Used Pile (if from hand then draw that number of cards). [immune to sense icon]
*I Hate It When He Does That!
Destiny: 2
Lore: Anakin’s rash behavior constantly grated on his mentor. It was Obi-Wan’s fear that his Padawan’s behavior would be the death of him. Little did he know.
Used or Lost Interrupt
Gametext: USED: Use 2 Force to prevent any character or starship just deployed by opponent from battling or moving for the remainder of this turn. LOST: Cancel opponent’s just played interrupt that adds one or more battle destinies battle destiny.
*Many Tools At Their Disposal
Destiny: 5
Lore: Prey can be eradicated by a great number of things, almost all of which are usually at the disposal of the hunter.
Used or Lost Interrupt
Gametext: USED: Cancel all attrition against you in a battle you win with your bounty hunter or assassin present. LOST: If your bounty hunter is present during a battle, add 1 battle destiny (2 if Zam or Jango).
*Quick Escape
Destiny: 3
Lore: Bounty hunters and assassins often must make a quick getaway if their presence is detected.
Used Interrupt
Gametext: If opponent just initiated a battle or targeted your assassin or bounty hunter present at a site, may use 2 Force to relocate that character to any related site (except for Bedroom). [Immune to Sense icon]
*Rednax
Destiny:1
Lore: Dug diner patron that eats at Dexter's occasionally, even if he thinks the food tastes like bantha poodoo.
Power: 2
Ability: 1
Deploy: 2
Forfeit: 1
Gametext: Doubles P for your Diner Patrons while at same site. Dugs at same site are power+2. Once per game may [deploy from reserve deck X icon] Dexter's Diner, Dining Room, Cantina or Outlander Club.
*Sith Pursuit
Destiny: 3
Episode 1 icon
Lore: "I will find them quickly."
Used Interrupt
Gametext: During opponent's move phase, relocate your Dark Jedi to the same or adjacent site as an opponent's senator or Jedi. [immune to sense icon]
*Zam Wesell
Destiny: 2
Character: Alien
Lore: Clawdite bounty hunter and assassin hired by Jango Fett to kill the senator from Naboo. Shapeshifter that can mimic the appearance of almost anyone.
Power: 2
Ability: 2
Armor: 4
Icons: Pilot, Warrior
Deploy 4
Forfeit 2
Gametext: Adds 2 to power of anything she pilots. At any time, may lose 1 Force to reveal a non-droid character (except Dark Jedi & cards with [permanent weapon icon]) from hand; Zam has that character's power, forfeit and game text for remainder of turn. Immune to attrition <3.
Let me know if any further changes should be made.
I'll work on the objectives and speeders next.
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Shewski
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Looks great!
The only thing I see is the Duracrete Slug. Normal rules would specify that all cards at a collapsed site are lost. We either need to make them immune to collapsing or something... Plus I like them going back into Used pile... maybe:
Habitat: Coruscant sites. Can not be attacked. 'Eats' (suspends) one (LS) and one (DS) at same site (may not fall below zero). If four or more Duracrete Slugs at same interior site at the end of opponent's turn, that site is 'collapsed' (Your slugs are not lost, place 2 in Used Pile)
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Assassination Target
Destiny: 5
Lore: Assassins and bounty hunters have many tools at their disposal for tracking and taking out their targets.
Effect
Gametext: Deploy on any Mark. Bounty hunters and assassins deploy -2 to adjacent sites. Opponent may not target Mark with Nabrun Leids or Odin Nesloor. When your assassin or bounty hunter targets Mark with a weapon, add 1 to weapon destiny.
--Well, I'd make it cancel Scum and Villainy, otherwise, it could easily become broken. Set up Scum (easy to do with V set 5), then this, and all of a sudden, you not only retrieve 2 force for every battle, but at adjacent sites to this 'mark' your bhs and assassins deploy -4. You could easily assemble a very harsh beatdown force for practically nothing.
Duracrete Slug
Destiny: 5
Creature
Lore: Slug-like creature that lives in the underlevels of Coruscant and other supermetropolises. Eats duracrete. Considered a pest by city builders and maintainence crews.
Deploy: 2
Forfeit: 0
Ferocity: 0
Slime: 2
Gametext: Habitat: Coruscant sites. Can not be attacked. 'Eats' (suspends) one (LS) and one (DS) at same site (may not fall below zero). If four or more Duracrete Slugs at same INTERIOR site at the end of opponent's turn, that site is 'collapsed' (immediately lose two slugs at site).
--still not right, as Shewski as mentioned, they'll be lost anyway. So there needs to be something more, and I still think it should only effect interior sites for getting rid of icons, because we have the Sleen and Nudjes for exterior planet sites. So, here's my new recommended game text;
Gametext: Habitat: Coruscant sites. Can not be attacked. 'Eats' (suspends) one (LS) and one (DS) at same interior site (may not fall below zero). If four or more Duracrete Slugs at same INTERIOR site at the end of opponent's turn, that site is 'collapsed' (immediately recycle two slugs at site). OR (immediately place two slugs in your Used Pile). -see how much 1 word saves space.
--Or something like Shewski's version.
*Hired Assassin
Destiny: 4
Lost Interrupt
Lore: "It's just a job."
Gametext: Use 3 Force to either reveal opponent’s hand or the top 5 cards from their Reserve Deck (your choice). Any senators found there are immediately lost. Place all other cards into Used Pile (if from hand then draw that number of cards). [immune to sense icon]
(needs to be a little clearer... 'if from hand, opponent draws that number of cards), otherwise, it'd be you drawing those cards and opponent would be left without a hand.)
I also don't like Shewski's idea of +1 to deploy, fire, and move. You know, you could in part solve some of the problems with the chase by deploying those coruscant locations from outside the game, and their icons don't count towards activation, and when the race is finished, it could go right back out of play. But I still think there's better ways of doing it. Podracing had cards with different uses as well, that doesn't make it any less frustrating or nonfun.
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Yeah, I am by no means married to my concept of the LS chase reward. I do like 2nds DS idea, though. Any other ideas for the LS?
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Phew.... it's been a quiet week. Any news to report on the AOTC front?
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Well, 2ndQuest has quite a bit to digest. I'm waiting for final revisions before modifying the cards.
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Sorry to hold ya'all up, I'm gonna try and wrap the 2.0 revisions up this week.
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Wasn't there a website once that had a bunch of card images from this set? Whatever happened to it?
Rain
ps- If you'd like a review on some of these cards, lmk. There are some changes I think you need to be aware of.
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I'm sure we'd love your take Rain... aren't you affilliated with the PC somehow... THere was some guy who posted a survey on how the cards looked with the same user name. Anyways, there was a site, but it got taken down for copyright reasons. The images are there still, but we are hesitant to post them again.
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