Author Topic: Cracken's Crew website and Clone Wars Sourcebook
Anstrona 
Registered: May '05
21785_Talon Karrde
Date Posted: 6/15/06 1:33pm Subject: RE: Cracken's Crew website and Clone Wars Sourcebook
Yeah, that's an editing goof on my part. Nar had the habit of putting the Skill Emphasis bonus feat that JC's get, into SQ's because...well, they're listed as an SQ in the class stats. I had been going through them and putting them in feats where they belong and I guess I missed the one on her. Not to worry, it'll be fixed with the final (for now anyway) Jedi chapter recompile that we're gonna be pushing out the door on July 1st.

 

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NarCranor 
Registered: Mar '05
6327_Red Leader
Date Posted: 6/21/06 4:18pm Subject: RE: Cracken's Crew website and Clone Wars Sourcebook
Oh happy day, finally! Nejaa Halcyon and Quinlan Vos are done, and in plenty of time to make the Jedi Recompile! They each took me a long long long long time (Im growing to hate researching the novels, takes forever, comics go so much quicker). We still actually have 5 more Jedi we want to add, but they are all minor characters who should prove very fast to stat, and we have two more to do major overhauls and updates on. Tron is still fiddling with the new program to construct these inside, so its possible we may end up a few days late again, but things are looking good for the recompile at the moment!

 

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JediAlly 
Registered: Oct '00
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Date Posted: 6/21/06 7:42pm Subject: RE: Cracken's Crew website and Clone Wars Sourcebook
I don't know if you want to do this, but I think there are two additional Jedi that you might include. If not in the upcoming recompile, then in a future one. The first one is a Jedi Knight named Gira, and he appeared in Star Wars Tales 17, I believe. The other is Aidan Bok, who appeared as a Force ghost in Ghost of the Jedi. I say might because Gira appeared, and died, in a Tales novel, and some of the stories are considered Infinities and are therefore not part of the official SW and EU timeline and canon. As for Aidan Bok, there are very few copies of the Galaxy of Fear out there.

Fortunately, I have both books in question. If you want me to send you info on these two, let me know and I'll PM you.

 

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NarCranor 
Registered: Mar '05
6327_Red Leader
Date Posted: 6/22/06 11:10am Subject: RE: Cracken's Crew website and Clone Wars Sourcebook
I actually have both of those books, but thank you for offering. What it really comes down to, in so far as if we are going to actually do stats for someone or not, is this. What did they do DURING the clone wars. If we have absolutely no idea of a single battle or event that occured during the clone wars that concerns them, odds are they are not going to end up getting a full write up with stats. However, characters like these two are going to be included in sidebars, so that way they arent completely ignored. Down the road, (in 2 years or so) we may find that we have the kind of free time to go back and stat out some of the more major characters that got sidebarred.

I mean, we have already statted exactly 150 Jedi. 150. Plus the 13 dark siders. Compare that to say, Ultimate Adversaries....where you get 30 pre-genned NPCs. But yeah, the bottom line is that we are pretty much going to start vomitting if we have to stat any more Jedi, and are more than ready to move on to Separatists and start using non-jedi classes. Down the road we will see what happens.

In the mean time though, when the recompile comes out, please look through it, and if you notice someone isnt mentioned that you feel should be, PLEASE let us know. We would like to make the Jedi chapter as near-perfect as we can.

Thanks again for all the support

Keith "Nar" Kappel

 

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Jedi_Matt 
Registered: Jul '02
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Date Posted: 6/22/06 1:04pm Subject: RE: Cracken's Crew website and Clone Wars Sourcebook
excellent stuff, the sheer level of content you're getting out is awesome, very very appreciative of your work.

Let the diversity begin! (non jedi) tongue

 

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NarCranor 
Registered: Mar '05
6327_Red Leader
Date Posted: 7/3/06 9:53pm Subject: RE: Cracken's Crew website and Clone Wars Sourcebook
The wait is finally over! I know we are 3 days late, but I hope you will find the chapter worth the wait. 150 Jedi fully statted and written out, nearly 100 other Jedi mentioned. Plus, we added the much desired Quinlan Vos and Nejaa Halcyon. Also, several new pieces of artwork from both our regular contributors and newcomer Sean Vrabel!

As always, I am very interested in everyone playing "editor" when they read through the document and use it in gameplay, and letting us know of any errors both grammatically and in stats, canon or balance that they find. We are dedicated to making sure the Clone Wars D20 Fan Sourcebook is as accurate as possible and of the highest calibur!

Thanks again for all the support!

 

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JediAlly 
Registered: Oct '00
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Date Posted: 7/4/06 2:19pm Subject: RE: Cracken's Crew website and Clone Wars Sourcebook
Well I looked through it, and to quote Thrawn, "it was so artistically done." But I do have some questions and comments.

Where are new feats and the Jedi watchman and Chalactan prestige classes you came up with? Are they going to be included in other chapters?

You have various blocks labeled killed in Action, fallen to the dark side, missing in action, etc. In each of them, you have random skills noted, and each had a certain rank number with them. Does that mean anything, or is that just eye candy.

I saw that picture of the Jedi who didn't make it in this new release. The one that looks like a blond girl. Who is that? Secondly, with a little work, you might be able to make her look like Tahiri Veila.

Jastus Farr - a Noghri? I would have thought the Noghri would remain obscure until the Thrawn Trilogy. I know they appeared in Armor, but I would have thought Palpatine and Vader kept their existence a secret from the galaxy while they used them as indentured bodyguards.

Aidan Bok - He wasn't killed on Coruscant. Vader killed him during his mission to destroy the Jedi library located on the ancient space station Nespis VIII.

The Padawan Bardan Jusik appeared in the previous Padawan chapter, but he's not in the collation.

 

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Jedi_Matt 
Registered: Jul '02
41173_Sith Army Knife
Date Posted: 7/4/06 3:58pm Subject: RE: Cracken's Crew website and Clone Wars Sourcebook
Obi Wan has 132 VP, which for a Jconsular 6/investigator 5/master 4 seems a hell of a lot. 132/15 = 8.8 vp per level, very lucky on rolls or a typo?

but that's a minor point, and the only thing i can come up with at the moment

great work guys.

 

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NarCranor 
Registered: Mar '05
6327_Red Leader
Date Posted: 7/4/06 10:24pm Subject: RE: Cracken's Crew website and Clone Wars Sourcebook
New feats and PRCs will eventually be recollected in a chapter entitled feats and a chapter entitled PRCs, which will get done as soon as all the NPCs are done. This recompile is basically more or less how the chapter will look when the entire book is assembled.

The random skills mean nothing, that is just how the core book does its sidebars. Silly? Yes. But we wanted to make it look the same :shrugs:.

Jastus Farr is undoubtably a nogrhi. Explanation? Maybe he stowed away on a transport of some smuggler or explorer, or maybe a Jedi crash landed there much like with Asajj Ventress on Rattatak, except this one was eventualyl picked up via his beacon, and he took Jastuss with him. A million scenarios could account for it. The planet is still considered relatively unknown, or at least very obscure. The Emperor further covered up its existance and the accident down the road when he had taken over. Nogrhi are still rare, but there is no denying Jastuss Far was one.

Aidan Bok id have to look into. Maybe he was just thought dead on coruscant and escaped to nespis VII after faking his death :shrugs: ill check it out.

Bardan Jusik and Etain Tur-Mukan are now in the Knights section, as in Triple Zero they were knights and no longer padawans. We kept their padawan stats, they are just in the knights section with the rest of the entry.

I can look into Obi-Wan's vitality, but his con is what? 14, so he gets +2 to con each level. That means 10 the first level, and an average of 6 each additional level (8 per master level) so hes a little high, but he was one of the more exceptional jedi, so its still within the acceptable range. Besides, in obi-wan's experience, there is no such thing as luck. If he has a high vitality, it must be the will of the force :P.

Anyway, thanks for checking it out, and keep the questions and comments coming!

 

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JediAlly 
Registered: Oct '00
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Date Posted: 7/8/06 10:34am Subject: RE: Cracken's Crew website and Clone Wars Sourcebook
Considering what happened to Nikkos Tyris' lightsaber, shouldn't Nejaa have a few ranks in the Drain Energy skill?

 

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NarCranor 
Registered: Mar '05
6327_Red Leader
Date Posted: 7/9/06 8:27am Subject: RE: Cracken's Crew website and Clone Wars Sourcebook
That is covered by the Dissipate Energy feat.

 

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JediAlly 
Registered: Oct '00
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Date Posted: 7/9/06 8:59pm Subject: RE: Cracken's Crew website and Clone Wars Sourcebook
How about this one - the stats of the Bith Jedi Master Ph'ton says he has the Force Secret (Farseeing +1). But he has no ranks in that Force skill. Could you have meant to give him that +1 bonus in another Force skill?

 

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JediAlly 
Registered: Oct '00
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Date Posted: 7/10/06 2:56pm Subject: RE: Cracken's Crew website and Clone Wars Sourcebook - Date Edited: 7/10/06 3:05pm (1 edits total) Edited By: JediAlly
Found two more ommisions, and both are about Quinlan Vos' stats.

He gained two Force secrets, one when he gained his first rank as a Jedi Master, and one when he gained his third rank as a Jedi Master. What are those secrets?

He also gained the increase weapon damage +1d8 SQ when he gained his second rank as a Jedi Weapon Master. Did he choose a specific weapon?

I also have a question about his stats. Should he not have some ranks in Force Lightning and maybe Force Grip?

 

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JediAlly 
Registered: Oct '00
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Date Posted: 7/12/06 9:50am Subject: RE: Cracken's Crew website and Clone Wars Sourcebook
Found an incongruity with Serra Keto. In the Jedi Knights chapter, you had attack -3 listed in her SQ. In the compilation chapter, though, she has attack -4. The Jedi Knights chapter was the correct one.

 

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JediAlly 
Registered: Oct '00
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Date Posted: 7/12/06 11:27am Subject: RE: Cracken's Crew website and Clone Wars Sourcebook - Date Edited: 7/12/06 12:04pm (1 edits total) Edited By: JediAlly
Tried to add this to the previous post, but ran out of time.

Some of the stats state that the Jedi can inflict more damage with a lightsaber, when in fact the Jedi can't. For example, Sha'a Gi's stats says he can inflict 3d8 damage, but he doesn't have the increase lightsaber damage SQ. So he should only inflict 2d8.

Similarly, Obs Kaj's stats states she has that SQ, but she's only a Jedi Guardian 4. Jedi Guardian receive that SQ when they reach level 6, so she shouldn't have that SQ listed.

With Jax Pavan, in addition to the starting feats he received, he should have two additional feats - one for Force training and one bonus feat at 1st level for being human. But you gave him three feats. Which one is the erroneous one?

 

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