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Geoff1138 
Registered: Jun '06
Date Posted: 6/30/06 4:58pm Subject: New Star Wars RPG Core Rulebook Coming!
Check this out!

 

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Geoff1138 
Registered: Jun '06
Date Posted: 6/30/06 5:01pm Subject: RE: New Star Wars RPG Core Rulebook Coming!
Sorry here is the link:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0786943564/qid=115 1670714/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/102-4516623-9127336?s=books&v=glance&n=283155&origin=

 

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Koohii 
Title: Games: RPG d6 GM
Registered: May '03
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Date Posted: 6/30/06 5:25pm Subject: RE: New Star Wars RPG Core Rulebook Coming!
Hmmm...
I can't help but wonder:
Is this going to be a 3.0 reprint, 3.5, or 4.0?

 

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Blithe 
Registered: Jun '03
Date Posted: 6/30/06 7:40pm Subject: RE: New Star Wars RPG Core Rulebook Coming! - Date Edited: 6/30/06 7:41pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Blithe
This is good news! I can't wait to see what they're going to do with it!

It's possible that it may very well be just a 3rd ed. reprint, but if that were the case, I'd imagine they'd would be inclined to include the pages upon pages of eratta they have for the SWRPG. However, considering the sheer amount of eratta they've made over recent years, an entirely new edition is certainly warrented in its own right.

 

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Jedi_Matt 
Registered: Jul '02
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Date Posted: 7/1/06 2:54am Subject: RE: New Star Wars RPG Core Rulebook Coming!
this could be awesome! or it could suck! heh

288 pages, sounds good. I hope it's not just the RotS collection bundled in with the existing thing wink

But Moridin is the second name on the author's list, hitting the big time, he is!

That gives me hope happy

 

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Donp 
Registered: Mar '03
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Date Posted: 7/1/06 5:50am Subject: RE: New Star Wars RPG Core Rulebook Coming!
Jedi_Matt posted:
this could be awesome! or it could suck! heh

288 pages, sounds good. I hope it's not just the RotS collection bundled in with the existing thing wink

But Moridin is the second name on the author's list, hitting the big time, he is!

That gives me hope happy


The 288 pages is curious, the RCRB is 320 pages I believe? Surely this can't be shorter?

 

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Gry Sarth 
Registered: Jun '99
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Date Posted: 7/1/06 5:59am Subject: RE: New Star Wars RPG Core Rulebook Coming!
I find it very weird that Wizards has just released on their website a nice PDF with all the collected errata for the Revised Core Rulebook. That goes directly against them releasing a new revised edition, cause anyone who has the old book can be perfectly satisfied with just this PDF and won't be interested in a new book.

 

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Rogue_Thunder 
Registered: Jan '03
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Date Posted: 7/1/06 8:39pm Subject: RE: New Star Wars RPG Core Rulebook Coming!
Gry Sarth posted:
I find it very weird that Wizards has just released on their website a nice PDF with all the collected errata for the Revised Core Rulebook. That goes directly against them releasing a new revised edition, cause anyone who has the old book can be perfectly satisfied with just this PDF and won't be interested in a new book.


I know it's hard to believe, but not every RPG-er has the internet, so for some that might be the only way to get ahold of the information easily. Then there's also the fact that some people might not want to print off however many pages the full errata is, or they want a hardcopy of it to mesh nicely with the rulebook.

Besides which, they may be planning a major revision to the rules in 9 months time and the errata pdf is just meant to tide us over til then.

 

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Rogue_Follower 
Title: Manager: Literature
Registered: Nov '03
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Date Posted: 7/2/06 6:59am Subject: RE: New Star Wars RPG Core Rulebook Coming! - Date Edited: 7/2/06 7:02am (1 edits total) Edited By: Rogue_Follower
Confirmation:

Gary Sarli posted:
Here's all the latest news on the future of the Star Wars RPG:

(1) Amazon.com is now listing a Star Wars Roleplaying Game Saga Edition among their future releases. Their listing includes the following information:

Authors: Owen K.C. Stephens, Rodney Thompson
Hardcover: 288 pages
Publisher: Wizards of the Coast (March 20, 2007)
ISBN: 0786943564
List Price: $39.95


This listing is not a hoax or a mistake -- it is legitimate. However, until I get specific authorization to do so, I cannot confirm or deny any details in the Amazon.com listing (i.e. I'm not verifying or refuting the accuracy of the price, pages, publication date, etc.) or any other questions about the book. More information will most likely be available at this year's GenCon (August 10-13 in Indianapolis).

(2) The GenCon 2006 event listing shows the following description for the Star Wars Miniatures seminar on Thursday, August 10, at 4 pm:

Want to find out what's coming up for the Star Wars Miniatures Game? Come to this discussion with the Star Wars Miniatures design team and find out the latest information on the starships set, competitive play, the RPG, some surprise announcements, and more. [emphasis added]

This is the first time that the RPG has been mentioned in the description of a WotC seminar at GenCon since 2003.

(3) Power of the Jedi Sourcebook and Dark Side Sourcebook have both been reprinted and are now available (June 2006).

(4) There are currently three places to get Episode III material:

"Revenge of the Sith Collection" (pdf) contains stats for many of the NPCs, vehicles, starships, etc. from the movie in addition to some new rules and errata relevant to the movie.

Ultimate Missions: Revenge of the Sith appendix has RPG stats for Anakin Skywalker, Bail Organa, Chewbacca, General Grievous, Obi-Wan Kenobi, San Hill, Sly Moore, Tarfful, Tion Medon, and Wat Tambor as well as Utapaun species traits.
Attack on Endor includes RPG stats for the BARC speeder used by clone troopers as well as the varactyl mounts from Utapau. (It also has non-Episode III RPG stats for Admiral Ackbar, Baron Soontir Fel, Dark Troopers [Phase III], Dr. Evazan, Grand Admiral Thrawn, Guri, Kyle Katarn, Ponda Baba, and Prince Xizor.)

The previews for the Champions of the Force miniatures expansion included RPG stats for some characters and droids from Episode III: Crab Droid (preview #6), Kashyyyk Trooper (preview #3), and Clone Commander Gree (preview #1). (Barriss Offee also appears in preview #2, and though she didn't actually didn't appear on screen in Episode III, she was on Felucia with Aayla Secura when Order 66 was carried out.)


(5) The website continues to host Star Wars RPG material, including an updated Revised Core Rulebook errata (May 2006), Jedi Counseling, the aforementioned Champions of the Force previews, and others.

As always, I will continue to update this thread to keep you abreast of all the latest information. (This thread replaces an older thread started last year, which you can look up for reference if desired.)


 

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Donp 
Registered: Mar '03
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Date Posted: 7/2/06 11:51am Subject: RE: New Star Wars RPG Core Rulebook Coming!
What do you think the SAGA edition Core Rulebook will be?

 

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Blithe 
Registered: Jun '03
Date Posted: 7/2/06 8:18pm Subject: RE: New Star Wars RPG Core Rulebook Coming! - Date Edited: 7/2/06 8:19pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Blithe
I think that it's basically going to be a reprint of much of the material in the RCRB with, of course, the pages of changes in the errata and the conversion of a large portion of the material to 3.5. I'm going to say that the shorter page number is a result of more streamlined rules, and perhaps, an overhauled space combat system.

Essentially, a well needed update to the RCRB.

 

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Rogue_Thunder 
Registered: Jan '03
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Date Posted: 7/2/06 10:27pm Subject: RE: New Star Wars RPG Core Rulebook Coming!
Sweet! I hope they can overhaul the space combat system... it definetly needs it. cool

 

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Rogue_Follower 
Title: Manager: Literature
Registered: Nov '03
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Date Posted: 7/3/06 7:14am Subject: RE: New Star Wars RPG Core Rulebook Coming!
I think we can expect a nice overhaul of lots of things space-related when the new Starships Miniatures game comes out.

And hopefully a new starship sourcebook. praying

 

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NJOfan215 
Registered: May '03
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Date Posted: 7/3/06 7:49am Subject: RE: New Star Wars RPG Core Rulebook Coming!
NCIE, KICKASS, SWEET!

 

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Donp 
Registered: Mar '03
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Date Posted: 7/3/06 4:07pm Subject: RE: New Star Wars RPG Core Rulebook Coming!
Aren't the rules in the RCRB based on D&D 3.5? If not, what are the main differences between 3.0 and 3.5?

 

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Darth_Cryptos 
Registered: Jul '06
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Date Posted: 7/6/06 6:03am Subject: RE: New Star Wars RPG Core Rulebook Coming! - Date Edited: 7/6/06 6:47am (3 edits total) Edited By: Darth_Cryptos
This is kind of funny. For lack of anything better to do, I've been revamping all the Force and Force-using class rules to deal with a lot of things I finally decided I didn't like: remade everything from classes, presitge classes, feats, skills, new Force system.... 52 pages so far. Made in a kind of "OGL" way so that I can use it with any d20 system. Now there's a new book coming out.

Probably for the best, though, I don't think I'll be impressed with whatever they're going to dish out next. This book's shorter length, and the way they tried to brush aside the RPG to push the miniatures game, giving it top billing and then stopping the RPG line, makes me wonder if they're not going to try to merge the two to reach a wider audience and get people to buy the minis because they're part of the rules system.

With fewer pages, I'm thinking there's two scenarios...

Best case scenario: they streamlined and improved the rules system. Very easy to do. They even had this thing in Jedi Counseling where they take all the Force skills down to three: Alter, Control and Sense. (I found this after I decided to almost the exact same thing in my own system.) You can knock out a couple dozen feats just by turning all those +2/+2 skill feats into one +2/+2 skill feat where you choose where the bonuses go. You really don't need the Fringer class. For that matter... I'm finding most of the classes are kind of lackluster and I've been thinking of adding my Force system to d20 Modern so people can just build their own character from the more generic classes. I've already made the Force classes into a sort of d20 Modern style with a base padawan class, advanced knight class (but ironically, with one path there's a lot more choice... I made sure to make everything customizable than Guardian or Consular: assign your own save progressions, bonus class skills, etc) and everything else is prestige. Same with Force Adept. Now it's Force Novice > Force Adept > prestige classes.

Most likely scenario: It's going to be a cheesy, lackluster WoTC way to try to sell the miniatures game to the RPG market with few substantive improvements. You'll have an entirely miniatures-based combat system that will encourage or perhaps even require people to buy the minis.

After messing around with the rules with an eye toward changing them, I'm finding all kinds of things I don't like. And to have them suddenly pick up the line again after dumping it... doesn't sound good.

 

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