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caichem
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4/19 2:51am
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i think the SAGA edition Core Rulebook will be better.
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Jedi_Matt
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Well technically Jacen didn't pulverise him, wasn't there some fire from a ship and Katarn was 'knocked forward' onto his blade, AFAIK, Jacen didn't even know he'd done it because he himself was shielding his eyes
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Anyone got the Threats of the Galaxy book? From what I've seen on the wizards site it's slightly light on stats in my opinion but apparently content wise (background info etc) it's supposed to be alright.
An index someone made for the book on the wizards forum can be found here http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1032836
I understand there's a pre-existing thread on the lit forum for it
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NJOfan215
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5/25 8:29am
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I looked through it at the book store. It was a little light on stats, but the info seemed good and the art was good also. The updated stats for bane were cool. I think the utility of it would depend on what type of game you're running. I imagine that you'll find at least a few useful npc.
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Jedi_Matt
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Cool, that's something I would buy it for, Bane's stats and write-up post the two Bane novels.
The write-up for Desann's Reborn went into a bit more depth (found on TOS), linking Desann with Lord Hethrir, I understand Hethrir himself had a dip in the Valley before coming up with the idea of a Reborn army.
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Jedi Merkurian
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5/26 8:08am
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Taking into account that it's riddled with errors -there's some wailing and gnashing of the teet about it at the WotC boards- the book is still worth it because of the sheer breadth of sample characters & suggested uses provided.
Even if I think that Darth Bane's stats are over the top 
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Jedi_Matt
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You mean they made him epic level?
Darth Bane should at the least be level 18, in my opinion.
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Faster than Maul, wiser & more charismatic than Yoda or Sidious, and with levels of Jedi Knight, even though they provide a talent in the same book that makes him taking levels of JK totally unecessary.
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Jedi_Matt
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levels in Jedi freakin' knight? What's the Sith Apprentice prestige class for exactly?
Was that so they could give him lightsaber form mastery I take it?
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Rogue_Thunder
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5/27 9:41pm
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Yeah, levels in Jedi might work from a gameplay perspective, but from a roleplay perspective there's just no reason for it. Go soldier until you qualify for Sith PrC's.
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Jedi Merkurian
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Jedi_Matt posted:
Was that so they could give him lightsaber form mastery I take it?
In the same book, they provide a new talent for the Sith Talent Tree that allows you to get form mastery, so I have no idea why he has levels in Jedi Knight.
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dizfactor
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5/28 1:22pm
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Jedi_Matt posted:
You mean they made him epic level?
Darth Bane should at the least be level 18, in my opinion.
Darth Bane defines level 20.
Jedi Merkurian posted:
Faster than Maul, wiser & more charismatic than Yoda or Sidious
Sounds right to me.
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with levels of Jedi Knight, even though they provide a talent in the same book that makes him taking levels of JK totally unecessary.
Unnecessary but not undesirable, I think.
It's also worth noting that a lot of the archetypal characters seem to be RPG stats of SW minis (Bith Black Sun Vigo, anyone?), and so I would imagine they looked at Bane's (totally obscene) mini stats for inspiration on some level.
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Yeah, levels in Jedi might work from a gameplay perspective, but from a roleplay perspective there's just no reason for it.
Stats, especially class selection, in Saga Edition are entirely concerned with the gameplay perspective and have nothing whatsoever to do with roleplay considerations. The right stats are the ones that reproduce the right mechanical effects.
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Jedi_Matt
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dizfactor posted:
Jedi_Matt posted:
You mean they made him epic level?
Darth Bane should at the least be level 18, in my opinion.
Darth Bane defines level 20.
Completely agree, it would take something special for him not to be level 20
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Yeah, levels in Jedi might work from a gameplay perspective, but from a roleplay perspective there's just no reason for it.
Stats, especially class selection, in Saga Edition are entirely concerned with the gameplay perspective and have nothing whatsoever to do with roleplay considerations. The right stats are the ones that reproduce the right mechanical effects.
Then why make a special pre-req of being part of the Jedi tradition to take levels in Jedi Knight?
Why not make a more generically named prestige class with different talent trees for Sith, Darksiders, Jedi and Force Adepts? Definitions of Jedi etc vary depending on the era, look at Vodo Siossk Baas and his lightsaber proof stick, he was a Jedi, yet he had that ability. I thought that's what customisation was about. Obviously it's not as simple as that, but I just think it should be made more open and left to the GM to police.
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dizfactor
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Jedi_Matt posted:
dizfactor posted:
Jedi_Matt posted:
You mean they made him epic level?
Darth Bane should at the least be level 18, in my opinion.
Darth Bane defines level 20.
Completely agree, it would take something special for him not to be level 20
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Yeah, levels in Jedi might work from a gameplay perspective, but from a roleplay perspective there's just no reason for it.
Stats, especially class selection, in Saga Edition are entirely concerned with the gameplay perspective and have nothing whatsoever to do with roleplay considerations. The right stats are the ones that reproduce the right mechanical effects.
Then why make a special pre-req of being part of the Jedi tradition to take levels in Jedi Knight?
My guess is that it was something they went back and forth on, decided to stick with the idea of the Jedi Knight class being associated with the Jedi Order at the time of SECR, and then almost immediately started backpedalling. I wouldn't be surprised to see that requirement waived through Jedi Counselling or something similar in the near future.
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JediAlly
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I agree he should be level 20, but having read Path of Destruction, I'd say he should definitely have a few levels as Soldier. At least 2 or three. One level of nonheroic to reflect his upbringing is a possibility, but not essential. The rest should be Jedi, Sith Lord, and maybe Sith acolyte.
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