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Author Topic: Interesting article: Aragorn was 5th level
dizfactor 
Registered: Aug '02
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Date Posted: 9/12/07 2:14pm Subject: RE: Interesting article: Aragorn was 5th level
Koohii posted:
Isn't the whole point to focus your character on being exceptional right from the start? Isn't the whole point that the players ARE the exceptional people? The ones who will be the molders and shapers of the world/galaxy?


Yes, and level 1 heroic characters are already exceptional, but as they progress, more options open up for them.

Koohii posted:
Maximizing a small select skill area... Sounds like munchkinizing to me.


Mace Windu, Wedge Antilles, Soontir Fel ... all of these are highly focused, very skilled characters in the SW universe.

The problem with munchkins isn't that they have highly skilled characters, it's that they have collections of highly specialized stats without really having a character.

Koohii posted:
Isn't the fact that Skill X and Skill Y have a synergy bonus? Isn't that what the bonus is for? You take 5 ranks of skill X to get a +2 to skill Y, which via reciprocity gives you a +2 to X when you have 5 ranks in Y? You need more on top of that?


It's not just skills, it's the whole package - combat abilities and skills. PrCs are a great way to go at things from a more holistic approach.

FlareStorm posted:
Sometimes PrCs make you take skill/feat combos that you'll never use or don't fit thematically with your character, just to get that shiny new power.


That happened a lot in previous editions, but has been all but entirely eliminated by the talent system in Saga.

 

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Kaziel 
Registered: Jul '07
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Date Posted: 9/12/07 3:44pm Subject: RE: Interesting article: Aragorn was 5th level
dizfactor posted:
That happened a lot in previous editions, but has been all but entirely eliminated by the talent system in Saga.
diz is on the mark on this one, and I'm going to further emphasize this point using the PrCs in the Saga Edition. There are 12 PrCs listed in the Saga Edition Core book. Not a single one of those PrCs calls for leveling multiple classes. Also, of those PrCs, only 3 of them have requirements that call for a specific class (those are Bounty Hunter, Elite Soldier, and Jedi Knight). This combined with the changes to skills (no more skill points) means that PrCs in Saga Edition can be played without a ridiculous amount of pre-planning that was one of the issues in the older versions of the d20 system.

Just an additional point: So far the PrCs in Saga Edition are really just for specialization. Maybe they will add it later, but the twelve I mentioned above are all pretty much just specialized single purpose ideas. For hybridization in Saga Edition, the freedom that the talent system gives allows you to (if needed) level up two different heroic classes and get exactly the abilities you want. I think it's a really good design change.

 
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