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~~~The Snake Pit~~~ METAL GEAR SOLID Discussion Thread
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yukie
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12/17/04 7:37pm
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SPOILERS.
Remember the end, when it says Eva disappeared in hanoi?
Grey Fox is half vietnamese.
DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN
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Ceethreepio
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12/18/04 3:32pm
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Yikie, you might be on to something there.
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yukie
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12/19/04 1:48pm
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oh definitely! In MGS, nothing is just coincidence 
EDIT:
About the MGS movie...David Hayter wrote the scripts to X-men 1 and X-men 2! He can definitely do something good with the MGS movie
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Ceethreepio
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12/20/04 3:46pm
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I have found the lyrics to the Snake Eater theme.
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater Main Theme
Vocals by Cynthia Harrell
What a thrill
With darkness and silence through the night
What a thrill
I'm searching and I'll melt into you
But you're so supreme!
I give my life
Not for honor, but for you (Snake Eater)
In my time there'll be no one else
Crime, it's the way I fly to you (Snake Eater)
I'm still in a dream of the snake eater
Someday you go through the rain,
Someday you feed on a tree frog,
Its ordeal, the trial to survive
For the day we see new light
I give my life
Not for honor, but for you (Snake Eater)
In my time there'll be no one else
Crime, it's the way I fly to you (Snake Eater)
I'm still in a dream of the snake eater"
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The_Fireman
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12/23/04 10:08am
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Holy freaking cow that game was awesome! It was on par with MGS, or close to it. The second one was a little too out there for me, but this felt like a return to perfection.  The only thing I'm SLIGHTLY disappointed with is that I had hoped they'd develop a little more Big Boss' evolution to the "dark side", as it were. Though I must admit, him standing there in that uniform with the beret and that mean look on his face was a NICE touch. And I suppose the whole thing over The Boss might have been a little influence on him turning against the US... Anyhoo, great game, nonetheless. EVA... 
Can anyone tell me what they said at the end before the credits regarding the "Patriots"? I caught everything else but that one slipped past before I could read it.
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Pooja
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12/23/04 7:27pm
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I actually thought Big Boss' contempt with the United States government was explained perfectly, and I'm glad it didn't do anything else. The rest is obvious.
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Ceethreepio
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12/25/04 2:34pm
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has anyone played MGS on the box(xbox)?
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yukie
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12/28/04 3:25pm
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Ya, big boss' lunacy was actually very well developed. Specifically, when you see the white innocent flowers turn red during the last fight...
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Atticus
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Found this on IMDB.com and thought that it was an interesting theory, so here it is.
Posted by MovieLover040
In a codec conversation that is rumored to take place in MGS3, Eva states that Ocelot is the son of two WWII war heroes, and was born on the battle field, and that left a huge scar on his mother.
The coincidences are just too many...
On top of that, Revolver channels Liquid in MGS2, due to the surgical implant on his arm...this would also lead us to believe that Ocelot IS the boss's son, since her husband...is The Sorrow...a guy who has many supernatural tendencies, and links...which would give the whole "Ocelot channeling Liquid" instance, some credence. She was born in 1922, I believe, I think that's what the headstone says, in the end.
EVA and ADAM are two American men who defected.
Many believe EVA (The informant, not Eva AKA Tatyana, AKA Tanya), is Raikov. Ocelot's name is "Adamska" which contains ADAM in it...so some believe that their real name, is part of their code name, or vice versa. Raikov's first name, I believe is Ivan, or a variation of that, someone on another board, said that in Russia, it's pronounced with an E sound, so it sounds like E-van...which looks like EVA...on top of that EVA, the informant would have to be someone who is high ranking, and actually has valuable information. I don't believe it's implied anywhere that the informant "EVA" was ever killed...he was just unable to make it that night.
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Shadow_of_Durron
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1/9/05 12:04am
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Awesome theories! Especially the one about Ocelot being The Boss' and Sorrow's son. Very interesting.
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omar_r786
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1/9/05 10:12am
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Ocelot is The Boss' son. You find out after you fight him and you are in the cave. You can contact EVA and she tells you that he is the son of a legendary war hero and that he was born on the battlefield. Put two and two together, when you fight The Boss, she tells you that her child was born on the battlefield.
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Plus they state that Ocelots mother had a snake shaed scar on her. And The Bosses scar is snake shaped.
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Ceethreepio
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they did?
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Atticus
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Hideo also confirms this in the new EGM magazine along with these other interesting facts. I found this on IMDB.com.
I just got my copy of this month's Electronic Gaming Monthly in the mail. They have a brief interview with Hideo Kojima in which they ask some of the burning questions left from the game. The answers are:
-Ocelot IS the son of The Sorrow and the Boss.
-The End's parrot is the grandfather of Emma's in MGS2.
-Kuwabara is a spell. Quote "There was this historical figure in Japan called Mr. Kuwabara who was afraid of lightning. So Volgin, with all of his electricity, doesn't want any rain or lightning to hit him."
-A "moss guy" and "lizardman" were cut bosses.
-The camera will probably change in future installments, but he isn't sure how yet.
-The next game will take place in the future, after MGS2, and he would love for Meryl and Otacon to "do their thing again."
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omar_r786
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I don't think there is going to be any more MGS games. What would the story be? I think it should be left alone now.
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