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Commander_Ducky  519 posts
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Date Posted: 7/19 6:15pm Subject: Star Wars Battlefront 3 Speculation, hopes, discussion
HMMM... you konw what? SWBGES doesn't look bad. it looks like it could be good. I'm still just mind blown that they only made it for PSP and DS. Also the story seems a little... not so good, and the fact that Rebellion did it is worrying.

 

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Chewgumma  2584 posts
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Date Posted: 7/19 6:23pm Subject: Star Wars Battlefront 3 Speculation, hopes, discussion
Commander_Ducky posted:
HMMM... you konw what? SWBGES doesn't look bad. it looks like it could be good. I'm still just mind blown that they only made it for PSP and DS. Also the story seems a little... not so good, and the fact that Rebellion did it is worrying.


You forget that Rebellion's pedigree includes the superb Alien vs Predator games. Don't focus on the last SW:B or the shellshock games just focus on the good AVP games...

 

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Clone-Army  427 posts
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Date Posted: 7/19 6:37pm Subject: Star Wars Battlefront 3 Speculation, hopes, discussion - Date Edited: 7/19 6:37pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Clone-Army
Commander_Ducky posted:
HMMM... you konw what? SWBGES doesn't look bad. it looks like it could be good. I'm still just mind blown that they only made it for PSP and DS. Also the story seems a little... not so good, and the fact that Rebellion did it is worrying.
I just hope they're not doing BF3. Especially since they're the ones who want to make BF3 for PS2 first and port it to other consoles...

Why they would make another handheld exclusive is beyond me.

 

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CT-770492A3  140 posts
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Date Posted: 7/19 6:53pm Subject: Star Wars Battlefront 3 Speculation, hopes, discussion
Clone-Army posted:
Why they would make another handheld exclusive is beyond me.

Business. Evidently they made a profit that was relatively significantly larger than the cost involved. And since costs are likely larger if they make a game for more systems, their marketing analysis team apparently concluded that they would get more from not doing so.

And remember, in their view, if it worked once, it'll work again. Right? tired

 

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Clone-Army  427 posts
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Date Posted: 7/20 12:06pm Subject: Star Wars Battlefront 3 Speculation, hopes, discussion - Date Edited: 7/20 12:10pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Clone-Army
CT-770492A3 posted:
Clone-Army posted:
Why they would make another handheld exclusive is beyond me.

Business. Evidently they made a profit that was relatively significantly larger than the cost involved. And since costs are likely larger if they make a game for more systems, their marketing analysis team apparently concluded that they would get more from not doing so.
I think that Rebellion wanted to make another handheld game, not that it makes more business sense. Sure, to make a multiplatform game the company has to put out more money, but they end up making much, much more of it in the end.

CT-770492A3 posted:
And remember, in their view, if it worked once, it'll work again. Right? tired
That's the problem with LA, they don't care what the fans want.

 

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Commander_Ducky  519 posts
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Date Posted: 7/21 9:38am Subject: Star Wars Battlefront 3 Speculation, hopes, discussion
Chewgumma posted:

You forget that Rebellion's pedigree includes the superb Alien vs Predator games. Don't focus on the last SW:B or the shellshock games just focus on the good AVP games...


Wait: Rebelion made AVP games? And they were good? hypnotized I didn't notice hell froze over... This AVP game, as it on the psp?

Clone-Army posted:

That's the problem with LA, they don't care what the fans want.


hmm... you know, i would realy have to disagree.



 

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Clone-Army  427 posts
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Date Posted: 7/21 10:29am Subject: Star Wars Battlefront 3 Speculation, hopes, discussion - Date Edited: 7/21 11:31am (8 edits total) Edited By: Clone-Army
Commander_Ducky posted:
Clone-Army posted:

That's the problem with LA, they don't care what the fans want.


hmm... you know, i would realy have to disagree.




So I take it you want Thrillville, Wii Indiana Jones, more lego games, more Clone Wars, more PSP games, and more arcade games?

I was just going by the fact that they don't listen to their established community, don't really support their older games (just look at their website), and they obviously only care about money (which I'm sure the have plenty of). Personally I think the mark of a successful company is customer support and satisfaction, as well as making money. Not to mention how they've pretty much dropped their support of the PC. Yeah, they care a lot...

They have nothing in official development that looks good besides ToR, and personally I hate MMOs. I feel betrayed by LA as a customer, especially after they pulled the contract and put Free Radical out of business after they worked on a game for 2 years that no one was supposed to know about.

 

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Commander_Ducky  519 posts
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Date Posted: 7/21 12:33pm Subject: Star Wars Battlefront 3 Speculation, hopes, discussion
Clone-Army posted:
Commander_Ducky posted:
Clone-Army posted:

That's the problem with LA, they don't care what the fans want.


hmm... you know, i would realy have to disagree.




So I take it you want Thrillville, Wii Indiana Jones, more lego games, more Clone Wars, more PSP games, and more arcade games?

I was just going by the fact that they don't listen to their established community, don't really support their older games (just look at their website), and they obviously only care about money (which I'm sure the have plenty of). Personally I think the mark of a successful company is customer support and satisfaction, as well as making money. Not to mention how they've pretty much dropped their support of the PC. Yeah, they care a lot...

They have nothing in official development that looks good besides ToR, and personally I hate MMOs. I feel betrayed by LA as a customer, especially after they pulled the contract and put Free Radical out of business after they worked on a game for 2 years that no one was supposed to know about.


"So I take it you want Thrillville, Wii Indiana Jones, more lego games, more Clone Wars, more PSP games, and more arcade games?"

I love that sentence especially: I loved the Lego Games, Thrillville looks good, heard it was fun, but i've never playd it so i'm indiferent. A Wii IJ game could be realy, realy good. I don't know if it IS yet, but it COULD be. Clone Wars is pretty good. As mentioned by someone earlier, it has flaws. But it's still good for what it is. More PSP games? I dunno. Depends if they're good. And more arcade games? um... WHAT arcade games?...

"I was just going by the fact that they don't listen to their established community, don't really support their older games"

I also find that sentence highly amusing.They DO listen to their established community. People ASKED them to do Lego Indiana Jones. They ASKED them to do 2 more Lego SW games after they made the first one. People ASKED for a handheld SWBF game. People WANTED a new SW [MMO]RPG. Also, i don't know if youve noticed, but they're makeing a remake of goddamned Monkey Island. If thats not being awsome, listening to Fans, and Supporting old games, i don't know what is. Also, how is releasing old games on steam not supporting their old games? Go check out their website.

"they've pretty much dropped their support of the PC"

Ok, i hate that just as much as the next guy [if not more: I only realy play on PC], but first of all, it's been 4 games not on PC. 1 of them hand held exclusive, and one PSP exclusive, so those 2 don't realy count. So, who sais they wont restart PC games? Monkey Island for one is a start.

"and personally I hate MMOs"

Well, Many, MAny, MANY people, me included, love RPG's. II'm not a fan of most MMO's because of monthly pay, but thats the only reason. Besides that: the game looks absoloutly outstanding.

And just in case you HAVN'T BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO EVERYTHING ABOUT FREE RADICAL AND SWBF3: WE DON'T KNOW IF IT WORKED! LA wouldn't have pulled them for no reason. If they can make an amazing video game, they would. They arn't going to say: Well, you know guys, that game looks too good... we can't have a realy good game... soo... lets pull it for the sole reason that it looks and plays awsome.
ok, i don't care how stupid ANYONE is, they wouldn't do that. the must have had their reasons.

 

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joesdomain  136 posts
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Date Posted: 7/21 12:48pm Subject: Star Wars Battlefront 3 Speculation, hopes, discussion
I am not fan of MMO's or whatever they are called. Multi-Online Games only stink! I can't play by myself with that type of game. I don't like playing video games with people. It is not fun for me because past guys I played with it took it too seriously and got mad when I killed there character. My former friend from school got so ticked of at me when we played Quake and Need for Speed for beating him. He took the game out of his PS2 and threw it against the wall thus breaking the PS2 game into pieces. That was back in 1999. I have never played with another person since. Come to think about it we have never spoke to each other since. Computer AI has no emotions or feelings to hurt if someone gets beat. I stink to supporting PS3 and PS3 single player games. Plus I can stand using keyboard and mouse! Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds and Clone Campaigns expanson pack were the best PC Star Wars game to date. I would never buy Star Wars Galaxies or Star Wars The Old Republic.

 

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CT-770492A3  140 posts
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Date Posted: 7/21 1:57pm Subject: Star Wars Battlefront 3 Speculation, hopes, discussion
Commander_Ducky posted:
And just in case you HAVN'T BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO EVERYTHING ABOUT FREE RADICAL AND SWBF3: WE DON'T KNOW IF IT WORKED! LA wouldn't have pulled them for no reason. If they can make an amazing video game, they would. They arn't going to say: Well, you know guys, that game looks too good... we can't have a realy good game... soo... lets pull it for the sole reason that it looks and plays awsome.
ok, i don't care how stupid ANYONE is, they wouldn't do that. the must have had their reasons.

True, we don't know if it worked. But it's not as if LucasArts is being very open with information about it either.

As to listening to their community...
Just think of this: why has the "Star Wars Battlefront 3 Speculation, hopes, discussion" thread become quite possibly the longest, most-responded-to thread on the JC videogames board?
Then think: what game have we not seen from LucasArts yet?

LucasArts probably does listen to its community. It seems like it's not all of it, though.


@joesdomain: Uhh...what?

 

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Chewgumma  2584 posts
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Date Posted: 7/21 2:04pm Subject: Star Wars Battlefront 3 Speculation, hopes, discussion - Date Edited: 7/21 2:06pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Chewgumma
Commander_Ducky posted:

Wait: Rebelion made AVP games? And they were good? hypnotized I didn't notice hell froze over... This AVP game, as it on the psp?



We are talking about very old games here, years before a film was even considered. And they were fantastic, atmospheric pc games that are even today considered to be a pair of the best games to be released. The PSP game was a lousy game based on the crap films.

 

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Date Posted: 7/22 2:01pm Subject: Star Wars Battlefront 3 Speculation, hopes, discussion
All i am looking forward to is the story of the rogue arc trooper.

 

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Clone-Army  427 posts
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Date Posted: 7/22 3:23pm Subject: Star Wars Battlefront 3 Speculation, hopes, discussion - Date Edited: 7/22 3:41pm (5 edits total) Edited By: Clone-Army
Commander_Ducky posted:
"So I take it you want Thrillville, Wii Indiana Jones, more lego games, more Clone Wars, more PSP games, and more arcade games?"

I love that sentence especially: I loved the Lego Games, Thrillville looks good, heard it was fun, but i've never playd it so i'm indiferent. A Wii IJ game could be realy, realy good. I don't know if it IS yet, but it COULD be. Clone Wars is pretty good. As mentioned by someone earlier, it has flaws. But it's still good for what it is. More PSP games? I dunno. Depends if they're good. And more arcade games? um... WHAT arcade games?...
I liked the original Lego Star Wars, but every lego game is the same with a different skin. It got redundant. Thrillville imo is a pathetic attempt at making a theme park sim, and Wii indiana jones got mediocre and horrible reviews (Oh wait it's a wii game). Regardless if a PSP game is good or not, it doesn't cater to the majority of fans. "Arcade games" the way I was using it was referring to the small "casual" or kids games that Lucasarts has spewed out like Lightsaber Duels, Lethal Alliance, or Jedi Alliance. Probably wasn't a good word to use.

Commander_Ducky posted:
"I was just going by the fact that they don't listen to their established community, don't really support their older games"

I also find that sentence highly amusing.They DO listen to their established community. People ASKED them to do Lego Indiana Jones. They ASKED them to do 2 more Lego SW games after they made the first one. People ASKED for a handheld SWBF game. People WANTED a new SW [MMO]RPG. Also, i don't know if youve noticed, but they're makeing a remake of goddamned Monkey Island. If thats not being awsome, listening to Fans, and Supporting old games, i don't know what is. Also, how is releasing old games on steam not supporting their old games? Go check out their website.
People WANT KotoR 3, people WANT Battlefront 3, people WANT a Jedi Knight game, people WANT another Rogue Squadron, people WANT a new Star Wars IP, and people WANT a proper new Indiana Jones game all a hell of a lot more than another Lego game, another Thrillville. I agree that they can't respond to everyones needs but the amount of crap they've put out while only making one serious effort (TFU) in the past 3 years is appaling. After their games come out, they basically forget about it and abandon those communities. They hardly even acknowledge their old games exist, that's why I said look at their website. Oh, so they're releasing old games on steam? Let me tell ya, I'm going to buy them all again and think "LucasArts is back on top!" /sarcasm

I'm glad they made a new Mokey Island. Maybe they're starting to remember their older fans.

Commander_Ducky posted:
"they've pretty much dropped their support of the PC"

Ok, i hate that just as much as the next guy [if not more: I only realy play on PC], but first of all, it's been 4 games not on PC. 1 of them hand held exclusive, and one PSP exclusive, so those 2 don't realy count. So, who sais they wont restart PC games? Monkey Island for one is a start.
The Force Unleashed, "The biggest Star Wars game of all time" according to them. Oh and Fracture, the only new IP from them that had potential, Thrillville too. Not for PC.

Commander_Ducky posted:
"and personally I hate MMOs"

Well, Many, MAny, MANY people, me included, love RPG's. II'm not a fan of most MMO's because of monthly pay, but thats the only reason. Besides that: the game looks absoloutly outstanding.
I love RPGs too. But like I said I hate MMOs. I'm positive that the majority of KotoR fans would prefer KotoR III to ToR. Also, I disagree, the trailer was outstanding, the game has a cartoony look that I don't like at all. I'm glad that their trying to make a good MMO with a story and good voice acting but I'm passing on it.

Commander_Ducky posted:
And just in case you HAVN'T BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO EVERYTHING ABOUT FREE RADICAL AND SWBF3: WE DON'T KNOW IF IT WORKED! LA wouldn't have pulled them for no reason. If they can make an amazing video game, they would. They arn't going to say: Well, you know guys, that game looks too good... we can't have a realy good game... soo... lets pull it for the sole reason that it looks and plays awsome.
ok, i don't care how stupid ANYONE is, they wouldn't do that. the must have had their reasons.
Well then they should come out and say something! I wouldn't be saying that if they said they had a good reason. I personally think LucasArts lost faith in Free Radical after the failure of Haze and pulled the contract, thus ruining the company. Your point of view is just as ingnorant as mine, FYI.

 

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Commander_Ducky  519 posts
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Date Posted: 7/22 8:39pm Subject: Star Wars Battlefront 3 Speculation, hopes, discussion - Date Edited: 7/22 8:41pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Commander_Ducky
Clone-Army posted:
I liked the original Lego Star Wars, but every lego game is the same with a different skin. It got redundant. Thrillville imo is a pathetic attempt at making a theme park sim, and Wii indiana jones got mediocre and horrible reviews (Oh wait it's a wii game). Regardless if a PSP game is good or not, it doesn't cater to the majority of fans. "Arcade games" the way I was using it was referring to the small "casual" or kids games that Lucasarts has spewed out like Lightsaber Duels, Lethal Alliance, or Jedi Alliance. Probably wasn't a good word to use.


Hmm... so, by saying that "every lego game is the same with a different skin" do you mean it's in the same sage of movies, it is the basic same idea but has completely different levels/characters/vehicles/etc... and a bunch of changes and improvments? OH!! so, when you say "every lego game is the same with a different skin" you mean that they are sequels! So, basically... it's... completely different except for the basic, basic idea?... hmm... ya, sequel would work too. So your saying that SWBF2 was redundent, and that SWBF3 would/will be redundent. So... let me ask you a question: why do you want SWBF3 if it'll be so redundent? Ok, in your opinon it sucked, I said I can't judge, but i have heard both stories. lol, it also got some good reviews, and why does being a wii game mean anything? oh, let me geusse, the graphics arn't PS3 quality, and for you that makes or breaks a game? I didn't realise thats the kind of person you are. And as you say those are "casual" or kids games. Not big boy PS3 graphic lovers games [AKA NOT for YOU. So NO WAY you don't like them, who would of geussed]. Causual gamers and kids are part of the fan base too.


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People WANT KotoR 3, people WANT Battlefront 3, people WANT a Jedi Knight game, people WANT another Rogue Squadron, people WANT a new Star Wars IP, and people WANT a proper new Indiana Jones game all a hell of a lot more than another Lego game, another Thrillville. I agree that they can't respond to everyones needs but the amount of crap they've put out while only making one serious effort (TFU) in the past 3 years is appaling. After their games come out, they basically forget about it and abandon those communities. They hardly even acknowledge their old games exist, that's why I said look at their website. Oh, so they're releasing old games on steam? Let me tell ya, I'm going to buy them all again and think "LucasArts is back on top!" /sarcasm

I'm glad they made a new Mokey Island. Maybe they're starting to remember their older fans.


Yes, people DO want those games, but, i don't konw if youve been paying attention to anything I OR you have been saying, but you've been saying that the don't pay attention to what their fans want. And i pointed out they do, just some things are still in the progress. SOME THINGS TAKE TIME. it's a sipmle lesson that everyone except down right morons understand: when a person and some other people want to make a vide game very much, he all work together for a long time, and create one! now, where in that pocess does the game get created instantly at the snap of a fans fingers? Oh, that's right, nowhere. OK, once again what crap? Just because YOU don't like/understand the greatness and fun of Lego games, doesn't mean hey have only put out crap. Also, you can see that they have been working on a SWBF3 for a while [FR's], but it got cancelled. We can also see it was done in COMPLETE secrecy, we never knew a thing. Who's to say they arn't owrking on every other game we all want right now, in secrecy? Wait, how do they completely ignore the existence of past games? You sau nothing about how, just that they do, which, i would say they don't do it anymore than any/most companies do with anything. No, now you are being stupid and immature about the whole steam thig, just like an imature and stupid person [no offense: i am not calling you immature or stupid]. They are supporting their old games by releasing them to millions of people who might not have had the chance to get them. The are releasing their super old games, the games of their roots, to people of a new generation who had never experienced them before. That is supporting.

So am I, i'm glad we can agree on at least one thing.


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The Force Unleashed, "The biggest Star Wars game of all time" according to them. Oh and Fracture, the only new IP from them that had potential, Thrillville too. Not for PC.


As i already sai: i do not agree with that, they might have reasons, they might not, but that isn't the only defining factor in judging how good Lucas Arts is.



Clone-Army posted:
I love RPGs too. But like I said I hate MMOs. I'm positive that the majority of KotoR fans would prefer KotoR III to ToR. Also, I disagree, the trailer was outstanding, the game has a cartoony look that I don't like at all. I'm glad that their trying to make a good MMO with a story and good voice acting but I'm passing on it.


You know what? I would prefer an MMO if you don't have to pay money for it, and i'm sure many people agree with both me and you, and also people who are indiferent, as to wether MMORPG's, or RPG's are better. Also: I don't know if you missed something, but... TOR is basically KOTOR except MMO... soo... I'm positive the majority of fans are fine with TOR as opposed to KOTOR III [the main difference is one has KO and a few I's in there] Ahhhh, so I see i was right earlier: you are one of those people who believe in graphics making or breaking a game: see, some people realise that making everything other than graphics AMAZING, and making the game HUGE, and sacraficing the graphics a bit is better than making a mediocre game with amazing graphics. Well, that's your loss then, personally i believe that playing a [what looks to be] awsome game is much worth the "torture" of having to play a game with mideocre graphics.



Clone-Army posted:
Well then they should come out and say something! I wouldn't be saying that if they said they had a good reason. I personally think LucasArts lost faith in Free Radical after the failure of Haze and pulled the contract, thus ruining the company. Your point of view is just as ingnorant as mine, FYI.


Should they? I believe they have, keep up: that was ages ago. Well you know what? Haze came out way before they dropped SWBF3, also, one bad game on a track record of great games is a moronic reason to drop a game. Also, i think Lucas Arts would be able to exorcise their greater judgment on wether or not SWBF3 [the one by FR] was good or not. I Realy, REALY do not think they would have dropped the game unless it wasn't good.

How am i being ignorant?

 

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Legend_of_Leroy  87 posts
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Date Posted: 7/23 1:23am Subject: Star Wars Battlefront 3 Speculation, hopes, discussion
I actually prefer to play BFII with the graphics turned down, it runs alot smoother and I can afford to turn other (game relavant) settings like draw distance up.

 

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