Author Topic: Star Wars The Force Unleashed [All Formats] (General/Non Spoiler Discussion)
That_Wascally_Droid  10276 posts
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Date Posted: 8/21/06 10:05am Subject: RE: [Star Wars 2007] "Worlds Apart" (working title) aka "Force Unleashed" aka "The Vader Game"
*blinks*
How were the Jedi defeated if they could do this stuff on a whim?
That's the essential question never asked by any EU writer.
The Jedi were defeated. How?
The problem is, now we know how, and if any ol' Jedi could do stuff like this Order 66 and the Temple March just don't seem plausible.

 

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darth_paul  6673 posts
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Date Posted: 8/21/06 11:22am Subject: RE: [Star Wars 2007] "Worlds Apart" (working title) aka "Force Unleashed" aka "The Vader Game"
That_Wascally_Droid posted:
*blinks*
How were the Jedi defeated if they could do this stuff on a whim?
That's the essential question never asked by any EU writer.
The Jedi were defeated. How?
The problem is, now we know how, and if any ol' Jedi could do stuff like this Order 66 and the Temple March just don't seem plausible.
Well, for one thing, I'm not sure they could. It may be a gameplay mechanics issue, and gameplay mechanics are not considered to affect canon.

But let's look at it in another way. For one thing, this sort of display demonstrates a tremendous burst of sheer power. I'm not sure this kind of display is logically supported by the calm, even light side. I think it may require passion and anger and emotion as fuels, which would make it dark side-oriented. And, as others have pointed out, the Jedi use the force for knowledge and defence, never for attack. So it could be that the Jedi don't do this sort of thing because it is of the dark side and they will not let themselves do it. Now, after the destruction of the entire Jedi order, some of the Jedi have finally snapped and just don't care anymore. As others have pointed out, that would be a very interesting place for this game to go.

-Paul

 

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dakinJmacwalker  138 posts
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Date Posted: 8/21/06 11:38am Subject: RE: [Star Wars 2007] "Worlds Apart" (working title) aka "Force Unleashed" aka "The Vader Game"
This isn't just coming out for PS3 right, it will be xbox 360 as well?

 

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That_Wascally_Droid  10276 posts
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Date Posted: 8/21/06 4:52pm Subject: RE: [Star Wars 2007] "Worlds Apart" (working title) aka "Force Unleashed" aka "The Vader Game"
Oh I'll still play it if I have the correct system.
Just little questions like that bug me.
The movies set up tricks like chucking senate pods to be extremely impressive. The Jedi here look like they could do that without breaking a sweat.

 

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pat-fett  5104 posts
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Date Posted: 8/21/06 11:15pm Subject: RE: [Star Wars 2007] "Worlds Apart" (working title) aka "Force Unleashed" aka "The Vader Game"
I wouldn't mind if this was a JO/JA type game. As long as the story is strong and compelling. Throw some new force power mechanics in the mix and I'm happy.

 

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ViolentVioletMenace  271 posts
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Date Posted: 8/23/06 1:38am Subject: RE: [Star Wars 2007] "Worlds Apart" (working title) aka "Force Unleashed" aka "The Vader Game" - Date Edited: 8/23/06 1:40am (1 edits total) Edited By: ViolentVioletMenace
The Clone Wars cartoon had Mace Windu push open a 500 ft perimeter around himself. I know Clone Wars is over the top, but I still find it a little hard to believe that the jedi could have been overthrown by stormtroopers, no matter how many. The possibility of Force-speeding your self way out of there would always be present. I mean, if you managed to survive the surprise ambush in the first place, then after that it would be hard to gather a posse of a gazillion troopers outside your door without you knowing, wouldn't it?

EDIT: spelling

 

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Squishy_Vic  4212 posts
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Date Posted: 8/23/06 1:45am Subject: RE: [Star Wars 2007] "Worlds Apart" (working title) aka "Force Unleashed" aka "The Vader Game" - Date Edited: 8/23/06 1:46am (1 edits total) Edited By: Squishy_Vic
Yeah, but we both know none of the Jedi at the temple were as awesome as Mace cool (they weren't as powerful either)

edit- none of the Jedi that were off on missions survived their ambush. Only Obi-Wan and Yoda. So everyone at the temple was being ambushed for the first time.

 

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ViolentVioletMenace  271 posts
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Date Posted: 8/23/06 12:31pm Subject: RE: [Star Wars 2007] "Worlds Apart" (working title) aka "Force Unleashed" aka "The Vader Game"
Squishy_Vic posted:
edit- none of the Jedi that were off on missions survived their ambush. Only Obi-Wan and Yoda. So everyone at the temple was being ambushed for the first time.


That may be true for now. But you can bet they are going to cook up EU stories that chronicles the stories of jedi who did survive the first ambush and are being hunted down in the mid-ep3-ep4-era. And, as you see many already presume that to be the premise for this very game, though no info about the time period has been released so far.

 

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MarcusP2  12804 posts
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Date Posted: 8/24/06 8:31am Subject: RE: [Star Wars 2007] "Worlds Apart" (working title) aka "Force Unleashed" aka "The Vader Game"
Squishy_Vic posted:
Yeah, but we both know none of the Jedi at the temple were as awesome as Mace cool (they weren't as powerful either)

edit- none of the Jedi that were off on missions survived their ambush. Only Obi-Wan and Yoda. So everyone at the temple was being ambushed for the first time.


Never read Purge? Dark Lord? Republic comics?

Lots of Jedi survived their ambushes. Though I doubt any of them warned the temple.

 

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Rogue_Follower  8550 posts
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Date Posted: 8/24/06 9:25am Subject: RE: [Star Wars 2007] "Worlds Apart" (working title) aka "Force Unleashed" aka "The Vader Game"
About 200 Jedi survived Order 66, according to LFL.

 

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YodavsSidious  358 posts
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Date Posted: 8/25/06 3:08pm Subject: RE: [Star Wars 2007] "Worlds Apart" (working title) aka "Force Unleashed" aka "The Vader Game"
This will be great STAR WARS 2007 on XBOX 360 and PLAYSTATION 3

 

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crunchymonkey89 
Registered: Jun '06
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Date Posted: 8/25/06 3:31pm Subject: RE: [Star Wars 2007] "Worlds Apart" (working title) aka "Force Unleashed" aka "The Vader Game"
Something I noticed in the vid. This may belong on the Potential Changes Thread but notice that several times we see a stormtrooper with what looks like yellow rank markings. Is this just a transitional effect connecting the stormtroopers to the clones or is it a hint of things to come?

 

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That_Wascally_Droid  10276 posts
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Date Posted: 8/25/06 3:42pm Subject: RE: [Star Wars 2007] "Worlds Apart" (working title) aka "Force Unleashed" aka "The Vader Game"
I'd wager a transition thing. Enough changed overnight to make everything safe and OT that I'd take damn near any transition at this point tongue

The destroyers at the end of RotS were purposely left colorless to match the OT, so I can't see them going back and adding color here and there.

 

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KnightinaBox 
Registered: Jun '06
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Date Posted: 8/25/06 5:24pm Subject: RE: [Star Wars 2007] "Worlds Apart" (working title) aka "Force Unleashed" aka "The Vader Game"
Ok, I feel a need to post here.
First, the images of this new game, as I gather it, are very well prgressed jedi.
Second, it is not just plain having strength, it is what you do with it and in what manner. The tricky thing about a gizzilion clones is quite simply a matter alinged with the basterdization of the force(ie the need for balance by the chosen one) Palpatines massive grip and the force influxions of all so influenced by the polotics of sith presence. In short, to tap good strength is not the same as to preserve good rienforcement. Infact you ar e either consuming or producing when siituations litterally get ass ass-tightening as star wars situations. That's what really made yoda the man, well clondorian.

 

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__Vader__  793 posts
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Date Posted: 8/25/06 10:38pm Subject: RE: [Star Wars 2007] "Worlds Apart" (working title) aka "Force Unleashed" aka "The Vader Game"
Seeing those stormtroopers broke my heart. Its not KOTOR III. Lets hope for a decent original game then.

 

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