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Jedi_Master_Ron Registered: Jan '06	Date Posted: 1/26/08 2:17pm Subject: RE: Super Smash Bros: Brawl - Date Edited: 1/26/08 3:19pm (7 edits total) Edited By: Jedi_Master_Ron
	^Yeah, I thought that roster was deconfirmed. I'll look around and see if I can find where it was deconfirmed, if it was at all. I'm kind of hoping for this to be real though (only because Junior's on the list), but I doubt it. The large question mark hints at it being fake. EDIT: Alright, I found a thread at the Smash boads addressing this. Most people there regard it as totally fake. Here's the link. Oh, and we have new videos of a few Melee-pros playing Brawl. This is during a store demo in Japan, where the only form of controller available is the Wii-mote. Check the thread here for links to the videos. Obviously, Dedede can chain throw with his d-throw, and Ike is just an all-around powerhouse. Kirby is improved, and Pokemon Trainer looks awesome. -----signature----- Isai is too good.
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Obese_1_Ka-Blooey Registered: Jan '06	Date Posted: 1/26/08 11:39pm Subject: RE: Super Smash Bros: Brawl - Date Edited: 1/27/08 12:27am (3 edits total) Edited By: Obese_1_Ka-Blooey
	Ike seems almost unfair at this point. No doubt he'll be a "noob" character. And I don't consider the Japanese store "pros" pros at all. -----signature----- Tim Lincecum: 2009 Cy Young Award winner Cal Basketball: 11-6, 2nd Pac 10 Roll on you Bears! San Jose Sharks: 31-10-8, 1st Pacific
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Jedi_Master_Ron Registered: Jan '06	Date Posted: 1/26/08 11:55pm Subject: RE: Super Smash Bros: Brawl
	^I don't care what you think to be honest. Really, why does almost every post you make in this thread have to be directed at me in a negative manner? -----signature----- Isai is too good.
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Obese_1_Ka-Blooey Registered: Jan '06	Date Posted: 1/27/08 12:07am Subject: RE: Super Smash Bros: Brawl - Date Edited: 1/27/08 12:14am (1 edits total) Edited By: Obese_1_Ka-Blooey
	I'm not saying anything about you, Ron. I'm saying the "pros" aren't pros. That has nothing to do with you at all. They may play more than most people, but they aren't pros per se. Upon further review, I think I mistook a few of the matches you linked with other demos released at the same time that I watched as well. Now, some of those other ones (meaning players) sucked. A lot. -----signature----- Tim Lincecum: 2009 Cy Young Award winner Cal Basketball: 11-6, 2nd Pac 10 Roll on you Bears! San Jose Sharks: 31-10-8, 1st Pacific
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Jedi_Master_Ron Registered: Jan '06	Date Posted: 1/27/08 12:10am Subject: RE: Super Smash Bros: Brawl - Date Edited: 1/27/08 12:10am (2 edits total) Edited By: Jedi_Master_Ron
	^I was the one who stated they were pros. You responded to that statement. Thus you were responding to me. Your statement wasn't on topic; it wasn't necessary at all. Look up the word "professional," and then tell me they're not pros. They're Melee pros. -----signature----- Isai is too good.
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Obese_1_Ka-Blooey Registered: Jan '06	Date Posted: 1/27/08 12:20am Subject: RE: Super Smash Bros: Brawl - Date Edited: 1/27/08 12:31am (2 edits total) Edited By: Obese_1_Ka-Blooey
	Jedi_Master_Ron posted: Your statement wasn't on topic; it wasn't necessary at all. Now that is where your statement is truly wrong. First of all, my commenting on the skills of the players you linked is as much on topic as your original post. Also, as you said, opinions are everything. Therefore, there is no reason to call my opinion unnecessary. My opinion that the players were not pros is just as acceptable as your opinion that they are pros. Neither is less befitting of this thread. If anything is unnecessary, it is this: Jedi_Master_Ron posted: I don't care what you think to be honest. And, to humor you (from merriam-webster.com): Professional: having a particular profession as a permanent career. The last time I checked, these people do not have SSB playing as their permanent career. -----signature----- Tim Lincecum: 2009 Cy Young Award winner Cal Basketball: 11-6, 2nd Pac 10 Roll on you Bears! San Jose Sharks: 31-10-8, 1st Pacific
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Jedi_Master_Ron Registered: Jan '06	Date Posted: 1/27/08 12:32am Subject: RE: Super Smash Bros: Brawl - Date Edited: 1/27/08 12:32am (1 edits total) Edited By: Jedi_Master_Ron
	Obese_1_Ka-Blooey posted: Now that is where your statement is truly wrong. First of all, my commenting on the skills of the players you linked is as much on topic as your original post. Also, as you said, opinions are everything. Therefore, there is no reason to call my opinion unnecessary. My opinion that the players were not pros is just as acceptable as your opinion that they are pros. Neither is less befitting of this thread.. No, I posted the videos as samples of Brawl gameplay alone. The fact that Melee pros were playing it wasn't relevant; it wasn't on-topic, though I included that information in my post to explain the names shown, in case nobody knew who "Masashi" and "Ikki" are. And like I said, I don't care what you think. You're entitled to your opinions as I'm entitled to my own, though by definition these players are "pros." Obese_1_Ka-Blooey posted: And, to humor you (from merriam-webster.com): Professional: having a particular profession as a permanent career. The last time I checked, these people do not have SSB playing as their permanent career That's one definition. If you're familiar with the English language you'd understand that almost every word has several definitions. But let's drop this shall we? There's nothing more that needs to be said here, and I'm getting tired of arguing with you. -----signature----- Isai is too good.
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Obese_1_Ka-Blooey Registered: Jan '06	Date Posted: 1/27/08 12:37am Subject: RE: Super Smash Bros: Brawl
	Jedi_Master_Ron posted: That's one definition. If you're familiar with the English language you'd understand that almost every word has several definitions. But let's drop this shall we? There's nothing more that needs to be said here, and I'm getting tired of arguing with you. Please humor me and explain how they are, by definition, pros. All I need from you is an admittance by you that you're only getting tired of arguing with me because your arguments are thin in number and in quality. Believe me, I strongly believe what you said about my posts to be wrong. I wasn't looking to start anything with my comments about the Japanese players, yet you mistook my intentions. -----signature----- Tim Lincecum: 2009 Cy Young Award winner Cal Basketball: 11-6, 2nd Pac 10 Roll on you Bears! San Jose Sharks: 31-10-8, 1st Pacific
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Jedi_Master_Ron Registered: Jan '06	Date Posted: 1/27/08 12:45am Subject: RE: Super Smash Bros: Brawl - Date Edited: 1/27/08 12:48am (1 edits total) Edited By: Jedi_Master_Ron
	Obese_1_Ka-Blooey posted: Please humor me and explain how they are, by definition, pros. All I need from you is an admittance by you that you're only getting tired of arguing with me because your arguments are thin in number and in quality. Believe me, I strongly believe what you said about my posts to be wrong. I wasn't looking to start anything with my comments about the Japanese players, yet you mistook my intentions. Wow, you're only further reinforcing my point now, but I'll humor you. professional (adj.): 2 a: participating for gain or livelihood in an activity or field of endeavor often engaged in by amateurs <a professional golfer>c: engaged in by persons receiving financial return <professional football> And if you can't determine for yourself that they're pros (by definition of course) from here, there's something wrong with our education system. -----signature----- Isai is too good.
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Obese_1_Ka-Blooey Registered: Jan '06	Date Posted: 1/27/08 1:12am Subject: RE: Super Smash Bros: Brawl
	Furthermore, if you so stated that my original post was deemed by you unnecessary and off topic, why did you even deign to respond in the first place, sir? If you were annoyed by it, you should have let it alone. But no, you instigated this incident. So it seems to me, sir, that you were looking for this argument after reading my comment. [/ben stone] OK, it's done. Over. It seems to me, after watching the videos, that 1) Final Smashes are way too powerful, and 2) DDD's is relatively ineffective in stages with platforms above ground. -----signature----- Tim Lincecum: 2009 Cy Young Award winner Cal Basketball: 11-6, 2nd Pac 10 Roll on you Bears! San Jose Sharks: 31-10-8, 1st Pacific
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Jedi_Master_Ron Registered: Jan '06	Date Posted: 1/27/08 1:25am Subject: RE: Super Smash Bros: Brawl
	I wouldn't have responded to you if you hadn't outright "attacked" me (calling my argument weak and such), but whatever. It hardly matters now. I forgive you even though you're wrong. And Final Smashes are supposed to be powerful in my opinion. When I first heard about them I viewed FSs as an attack that if used properly would result in a KO (or several depending on how many people you're playing with). And my impressions on Dedede; he's going to be a pain to kill. Heavyweight with a multiple jumps and a good recovery move. Plus he can chain-throw and he's relatively fast for a heavyweight. On top of that he has a range over melee combatants with his hammer and he has a good projectile. He's definately going to be one of the better combatants this time around. -----signature----- Isai is too good.
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Obese_1_Ka-Blooey Registered: Jan '06	Date Posted: 1/27/08 1:34am Subject: RE: Super Smash Bros: Brawl
	I believe the FS gives an unfair advantage to whoever gets it. You yourself said you were against chance (and items) in SSB, and more for pure skill. Do you consider FSs skill??? -----signature----- Tim Lincecum: 2009 Cy Young Award winner Cal Basketball: 11-6, 2nd Pac 10 Roll on you Bears! San Jose Sharks: 31-10-8, 1st Pacific
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Jedi_Master_Ron Registered: Jan '06	Date Posted: 1/27/08 1:47am Subject: RE: Super Smash Bros: Brawl
	Yes, the FS favors faster characters who can collect/avoid it better than slower characters, and where it spawns is a luck factor as well. I'm turning ALL items off after a set amount of time, so I won't be playing with FS's either, though I'm playing the game with all features on when I get it. If you want to know my view of items and such, you can look back a couple of pages or look at this thread over at IGN, because that thread sums up my opinions of competitive/casual play fully. -----signature----- Isai is too good.
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The2ndQuest Title: Manager: -Literature -LACWAC -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 1/27/08 11:08am Subject: RE: Super Smash Bros: Brawl
	...and the personal attacks & discussion will end now. You're free to talk about skill and balance issues regarding FSs, but no more of this other stuff derailing the thread. Save it for the ring! -----signature----- Choose what I play next! http://boards.theforce.net/games_videogames/b10005/30588422/ K'Kruhk, 140 ABY:"Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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Obese_1_Ka-Blooey Registered: Jan '06	Date Posted: 1/27/08 11:29am Subject: RE: Super Smash Bros: Brawl
	The2ndQuest posted: ...and the personal attacks & discussion will end now. Um, don't worry, we stopped that hours ago. That was so 1:30 AM! When have we seen, so far in these demo videos, a single FS that was not effective at all? Whoever gets it can be guaranteed at least 1 KO. In a 1 vs. 1 match, that's crucial in determining the winner. FSs are too influential in the game, as of now. -----signature----- Tim Lincecum: 2009 Cy Young Award winner Cal Basketball: 11-6, 2nd Pac 10 Roll on you Bears! San Jose Sharks: 31-10-8, 1st Pacific
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