Fanclub The Imperial Remnant Fan Club: Order & Justice For The Common Good

No - that's cool. I agree that fan clubs should be about coming together about things we love - we've certainly got enough threads in lit to express frustration.

I think the fact that we both enjoy Saretti and think he must have done something awesome to get a destroyer in Legacy is exactly that!

 

Now we just need Saretti art so as we might know what he looks like.

 

Hmmm...maybe he could be non-white...even East Asian...so in addition to being awesome, he's also not Another White Moff Dude! It might even explain why he's so cool, being different makes his perspective more interested in the big picture, rather than the infighting we see in the Moff Council during Ruin. (Sorry, reading the diversity thread and then coming here makes me have weird thoughts)

 

We would need to review the text, but yes its possible. All I recall is him being a human male with long fingers

Of interest, though he turned traitor to Imperial ideals, one of the very few asian Star Wars characters we have seen is Grand Admiral Grant.

 

Mostly thus far we have been talking about the heroes of the Empire. Maybe we should shift gears a little bit and talk about the villians.

A few come to mind for me right away, but there have been a whole bunch over the years.

Vilim Disra tried to overthrow Pellaeon with a fake Grand Admiral Thrawn and the clone of a former Imperial Royal Guard.

Kurlen Flennic used the Vong war and the reported death of Pellaeon to try and seize power.

Moff Quille signed into a deal with Darth Caedus to eliminate Pellaeon and nearly succeeded in his power play if not for Reige, Daala and a Mandalorian strike force.

Moff Lecersen, thought of highly by Pellaeon, tried to turn the post Second Galactic Civil War Empire in his favor with an elaborate scheme to eliminate the newly minted Head of State Jag Fel.

Which brings us to Natasi Daala. Her finger prints have been all over the Empire in the years following the Palpatine Empire's demise. Something of both a villian and a hero and multiple different intervals. Without her there would maybe be no Empire left as her drastic actions that united the fueding warlords factions. Then after numerous failures she had the intelligence enough to step aside and hand the Empire over to Pellaeon's care, staying on to help the deep core warlords.

Many years later, at Pellaeon's request she returned to aid the Empire and eliminted Quille's bid for power before somehow finding her way into the GA's presidential suite on Coruscant. With her time on Coruscant at an end she threw in with Lecersen and attempted to take the Empire for her own. Both military and political moves by Jag Fel quickly squashed her hopes.

I'm sure there are more. Who am I missing?

 

I actually really enjoyed seeing Getelles again. I suspect characters that create weapons of mass destruction aren't heroes, but it was interesting to see that he was still struggling along as an Imperial all these years later.

 

*hops aboard*

I'm quite excited for this fan club- I have a soft spot for honorable Imperials. Pellaeon has been a favorite since I first got into the EU and especially with SotP/VotF; love Soontir and later Jag Fel; I think Teren Rogriss is one of the best minor characters in the whole Xwing series; and my affection for Reige started with LotF, but his appearance in Ascension was one of the few bright spots of that book.
Mostly, I'm just intrigued at this point to see when and how the Remnant evolves into the Fel Empire- though I hope it isn't rushed. I'd like to see Reige as HoS for a while.

 

Welcome!

I wonder if we will se an expanded role for Soontir in the post FOTJ Empire? It would certainly be very welcome.

 

As far as we know, he's still bopping about the Ascendancy, isn't he?
(after inexplicably winding up there in the first place in the odd and never-explained collapse of the EotH)
Actually, come to think of it- someone must be leading this revived EotH...

 

We do get the arrival of the Empire of the Hand's fleet in FOTJ. I'd like to think he has some involvement there.

 

So lets talk about the Aliens of the Empire!

Did you know that these guys are proud Imperial citizens?

 

Well, obviously the Chiss. However, I am curious about other species who might be big. According to Legacy, the Givin have a Moff, and there's plenty of Chagrian sith. What is Nihl?

 

The Chiss would actually be beyond Imperial Space, though I think it might be pretty safe to name them allies, at least in the timeframe of the Pellaeon run Empire.

Another prominate member would be the Muun, backing both the Imperial and Republic credit from Muunilinst.

General Grievous's people, the Kaleesh, might also be in there. They certainly are as of Legacy.

 

Off and on - they're certainly not GA/NR allies.

Also, anyone know the official Zabrak story for the Empire - are there any Zabrak planets that are official members of the Empire?

 

Do you think so? I'm skeptical of that idea... there's never much evidence that the Remnant knows about the Ascendancy until the Yuuzhan Vong war, everyone comes together late in the game to form the Galactic Alliance, but it always seemed to me that the Chiss backed away from that after the end of the war. They certainly had no qualms about entering conflict with the GA (Empire & Pellaeon included) in the Swarm War a few years later.
Would Chiss military doctrine really allow them to ally with anyone though? If the whole premise is to only strike at direct threats to Chiss territories, would they be legally allowed to lend aid to another entity? Or did all of that mentality go out the window with the YV war, the formation of the GA, and the apparent integration of parts of the Empire of the Hand into the Ascendancy?


Speaking of which, do we have an Ascendancy/EotH fan club? If not, why?

Edit: forget the Swarm War point, I'm forgetting my GFFA history apparently and confusing the almost-conflict with the GA over the Ackbar getting hijacked by Killiks with the fact that the GA was on the Ascendancy's side during the war. Silly me.

 

It would depend on how closely associated the Chiss are with the Empire of the Hand. We definitly see te EotH coming to Jag's aid in FOTJ which makes me think that at least at that point they are on good terms.

 

I wonder how many Yuuzhan Vong might live in the Empire? I'd imagine that some stragglers ended up here and there.

 

Well...for all that I love the Empire, I'm not sure they'd be very open to it. In the GA, we have examples of people being able to adopt Vong orphans, but I don't think the Remnant was that open to inter-species adoptions at that point (judging by Destiney's Way). It's quite possible that post-Invincible, with the Imperial Mission established and the Hearts and Minds philosophy of Jag Fel, you might start getting that kind of philanthropy officially allowed/sanctioned. But until then, I see the Vong as "those horrible aliens we helped fight and need to stay away from our worlds" in the Remnant.

 

Yeah, I don't think we would have Imperials adopting Vong either. I could just see them settling on an uninhabited world.

Its all speculation anyway since the Vong disappeared until 137 ABY

 

Lies!

 

Anyone have an example that didn't not exist prior to 2012?