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Lit The Rebel Alliance is suprisingly clean

Discussion in 'Literature' started by BaronNoir, Oct 9, 2012.

  1. Adrian the Cool

    Adrian the Cool Jedi Master star 4

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    I am a full supporter of the Alliance to Restore the Republic. So come on, remember Alderaan and forget Byss! ;)
     
  2. Darth_Zandalor

    Darth_Zandalor Jedi Master star 4

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    Tie Fighter. Maarek Stele had to deal with a lot of underhanded fighters on both sides. Imperial turncoats, the Mugaari, the Ripoblus and the Habeen. A lot of these rebel cells and individual uprisings were slimy backhanded jerks.

    And then there was the celebration riot massacre at the end of Return of the Jedi. Let's all go out cheering in the streets of Coruscant, the heart of the Empire, and see what happens. Hundreds massacred thanks to the Rebel cell that leaked the information to the public.
     
  3. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    And who were they being massacred by?
     
  4. Tim Battershell

    Tim Battershell Jedi Master star 5

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    According to one of the Wraith Squadron Chronicles, the so-called 'Rebel Cell' was a few students!
     
  5. Darth_Zandalor

    Darth_Zandalor Jedi Master star 4

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    By the Empire. Because a bunch of stupid people decided to incite a celebration riot in the heart of Imperial territory. What did they think would happen?
     
  6. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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    That the ruling council would dissolve the Empire on the spot and call for general elections? :D
     
  7. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    Wasn't the whole point of that scene, George Lucas's attempt to show that Palpatine was so hated that, the moment his death "got out" people would start celebrating- even in the heart of Imperial territory?
     
  8. The_Forgotten_Jedi

    The_Forgotten_Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    People always forget the greatest of the Rebel war crimes. Those poor contractors...

     
  9. Darth_Zandalor

    Darth_Zandalor Jedi Master star 4

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    They knew what they were getting into.
     
  10. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    In the context of the movies- the above is probably closer to the picture George Lucas had in mind ;)
     
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  11. The_Forgotten_Jedi

    The_Forgotten_Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    But they were just trying to scrape out a living! And I'm sure the Empire gave them really good benefits too! That job was too good to pass up, and then some Rebels go and blow it up with them still on it! Would it really have hurt to send a message asking them to politely evacuate before the battle began? It's not like they would have had any less of an element of surprise either time...
     
  12. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    If we're talking about the DS2- with its energy shield up it would have been a bit difficult for any contractors to escape.

    Once the shield came down, the Rebel Fleet had a very limited time to destroy it before it completed rotating and blew up Endor (RotJ novel).
     
  13. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    Benefits? Pay? What need has the Empire of these things? It's simple: WORK OR DIE!
     
  14. Darth_Zandalor

    Darth_Zandalor Jedi Master star 4

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    No, see, they're benevolent paymasters who genuinely care for their workers, and let labor animals like Wookiees operate the dangerous machinery to ensure a safe work environment for people. True patriots everyone.
     
  15. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    We do get to see some of the slaves who helped build the first Death Star in the Perry & Reaves Death Star novel. Not saw what was used for the second one.
     
  16. Darth_Zandalor

    Darth_Zandalor Jedi Master star 4

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    Wookiee Labor forces, infiltrated Mechis III Assassin Droids, and private contractors hired to run shipping materials to drop off points where they would then be picked up by Imperial vessels.
     
  17. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    If the private contractors are only running materials to the drop off point- then they won't be aboard the DS2 building it then, will they?
     
  18. Esg

    Esg Jedi Master star 4

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    Wasn't most of the Labor Force blown up on Despyre?
     
  19. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    The convicts (and a few guards) were- but they weren't the primary labor force. I think Darksaber explains that, after too much incompetence, Vader executed the convicts who'd worked on the Death Star and they focussed more on Wookiee slaves instead.

    I suppose they could have shipped the slaves down to Despayre before destroying it. But the Death Star novel doesn't mention that.
     
  20. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    No, no - they were let go, their contracts terminated.. along with their entire environment.
     
  21. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    Might be interesting to list all the "clearly dubious" actions by the Rebels- with sources- so people can read them and see exactly what was said.

    The "killing civilians in the Imperial Palace" bit comes from Children of the Jedi- after Leia's talked to Roganda Ismaren:

    Page 207:
    Silent in the narrow alleyway, Leia recalled the day that the Rebels had taken Coruscant. The Emperor's palace - that endless, gorgeous maze of crystal roofs, hanging gardens, pyramids of green and blue marble shining with gold ... summer quarters, winter quarters, treasuries, pavilions, music rooms, prisons, halls ... grace-and-favor residences for concubines, ministers and trained assassins - had been shelled hard and partially looted already, Rebel partisans having killed whichever members of the Court they could catch. These had included, if Leia had remembered correctly, not only the President of the Bureau of Punishments and the head of the Emperor's School of Torturers, but the court clothing designers and any number of minor and completely innocent servants of all ages, species and sexes whose names had never even been reported.
     
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  22. instantdeath

    instantdeath Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I have a question for Loyal Imperials everywhere... is the entire ROTJ film propaganda, or only parts of it? I mean, that part where Palpatine gleefully tortures Luke is obviously a hideous distortion of events, but is the part where Palpatine takes pity on Luke, makes him an exceptionally kind offer of a seat of power, and the ungrateful brat refuses true?
     
  23. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    How about the Prequels? TPM: Sidious & Maul ("Wipe them out. All of them") AotC with Sidious & Tyranus gloating over their orchestration of the Clone Wars at the end, Revenge of the Sith (Anakin's ordered to attack the Jedi Temple and "Leave no living thing behind") and so on.
     
  24. Darth_Zandalor

    Darth_Zandalor Jedi Master star 4

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    Read Wedge's Gamble. There's a particularly good chapter where he visits the Imperial History Museum to see the Empire's take on events.
     
  25. instantdeath

    instantdeath Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I do vaguely remember that. Gonna need to reread the X-Wing books. And of course there's the "Jedi's Revenge" holofilm in Mindor (should have been titled Revenge of the Jedi, IMO. Would have been funny, considering that was ROTJ's first title)