Amph Who would win? Daleks or Borg?

I'm lucky I mised Voyager the first time and am purposedfuly avoiding it even now, whether on Netflix or elsewhere.

Not knowing diddly squat about all there is to know about Dalek tech, I really can't make an opinion. But what are their strenghts in terms of ships and firepower when compared to Borg cubes and such?

 

Not to mention the absolute worst thing ST has ever done, pissing all over continuity from the much better show and movie.
When some admiral introduced Janeway in the god awful series finale as, "The woman who wrote the book on the Borg" I knew how badly I had erred in sticking with that crappy show.

 

Undeserved.

 

I imagine this is what Episode VII forum's like, except with more sugar and breathless hype.

 

I don't think we could match the noobish exhuberance and stupidity of the Episode VII boards if we tried. It's just something certain people are born with, I guess.

Well that's because Doctor Who is fantasy. It sort of started as sci-fi/historical way back in the day, but NuWho in particular isn't even really trying to be sci-fi.

 

I think the Borg would 'win,' but the sneaky Daleks would infiltrate the Borg hive mind and eventually take over.

 

The technological gap between the two is astronomical. We're talking about a species that can transport multiple planets across the universe at the same time, and blow up an entire planet with a couple of missiles, and that stood toe to toe with the time lords in a war that spanned the cosmos, against the borg, who are limited to one singular galaxy, and only a small section of it.

Epic Dalek curb stomp

 

Yeah but the Borg can teleport, including right onto Dalek ships like they did with the Enterprise.
Once on board wouldn't they become immune to the Dalek's energy beams and start learning what they need about Dalek technology to assimilate them? That's the part I can't get past. If Q hadn't whisked the Enterprise away in their first encounter, they clearly would have been assimilated and then the Borg would have been able to easily assimilate further ships, planets, etc.

Without a time out like humanity got to prepare for the Borg I don't see how the Daleks could resist that first wave...?

 

The Borg's transportation technology would make little difference. First they'd have to get past the Dalek ships' shields, something a Borg Cube would have little chance of doing, especially given that the Daleks would be swatting them away like flies with more ease than Species 8472 did.

If it did come to a one-on-one settings, perhaps if the Daleks felt like engaging in a bit of sport, then the Daleks' personal shields would deflect any physical attack by a Borg with his nanoprobes, unfortunately we can't say the same about the Borg. They fell to bullets (ST: First Contact), and also to "One's" personal shield attack in the episode "Drone", as well as being tossed about like ragdolls by one of the aforementioned 8472.

Also, while Borg technology can deflect the frequency-based phaser attacks of a weak sci-fi civilisation like the Federation, a brute-force firepower death ray used by a member of a universe-spanning empire will be a different ball game altogether.

 

Would you kill off anyone who stood in your way? Would you blow up the planet they were on just to make sure? Would you wipe out their whole species, just in case anyone else like them might show up? Would you be willing to alter reality itself in order to seal the deal?

Of course you wouldn't. But the Daleks would. Again, they don't assimilate their enemies; they kill them dead.

 

LOL, I am not convinced of the intellectual honesty of your analysis.

Let's look at some Dalek weaknesses for balance...
-They've been destroyed with small caliber 20th century firearms and a shoulder fired WWII weapon.
-An old man (1st Doctor) and a woman were able to push one at will and it couldn't stop them.
-One was rendered helpless by placing a hat over it's eyepiece.
-You can break into their heavily armored shuttle by just opening a hatch on it's roof and climbing in. No tools or force are necessary.

 

BORG ARE SUPERIOR IN ONLY ONE RESPECT; THEY ARE BETTER AT DYING

 

Pre-Time War era Daleks, (plus 60s level corny writing) can result in some stupid stuff happening. In-universe, it doesn't particularly matter. At the end of the day, a species that has an empire that spans an entire universe, engaged in a massive Time War, transports a couple of dozen planets across millions of light years, and creates a weapon that can destroy all reality itself, across all universes and parallel universes, will defeat a species that barely controls a quarter of its own galaxy, through sheer scale and resources alone.

 

Reminds me of Star Trek The Original Series, Rocky and Bullwinkle and a few other TV shows from that era.

 

Again, the Daleks are more ruthless, and committed to their goal with a psychopathic intensity. And they have the technology to accomplish their most wildly hateful schemes.

But, again, Palpatine would let them both kill each other off. And he'd probably make each one think he was the best ally (even while they each unsuccessfully plan to get rid of him).

 

And then the Master would suggest an Alliance with Palpatine, all the while plotting to kill him off or if this was body - snatching Master, take over Sidious' body (now there's a scary thought)

 

Of course Palps would beat them. But then the Doctor would beat him.

 

That's true. But I think the Dalek's would have a good chance of just blowing everyone up before that happened. Though it would actually be interesting to see someone beside the Doctor get the drop on the Daleks for once.

Well, the Doctor or Oswin now I guess.

 

solojones, your seriously aren't subscribing to the theory that Oswin is somehow the Twelfth Doctor, are you?

 

Well I suppose that's true. However, no matter what happens, you know that some Daleks will survive somewhere, in some place or universe, and they'll never ever be gone. Because they're contractually obligated to feature in at least one episode per series. The Borg may have a lot of power, but do they have entertainment lawyers?

No, I just said that she had been able to single-handedly best the Daleks. Have to give credit where it's due. The Doctor's not the only one who's done that. I suppose we should also give kudos to Ian for being able to, er, ride around inside a Dalek shell.

 

This is true.