Full Series The Clone Wars - 5.16 - Lawless - discussion thread

yea, that was his plan

 

She broke her out to call Obi-Wan in the first place didn't she?

Obi-Wan couldn't deflect rockets like that in the past, why would he have been able to now? Just because they took off 10 seconds earlier because Anakin stayed on the ship doesn't mean the rockets wouldn't catch up.

And isn't Anakin known for getting shot down?

 

Quite a few more secs, the ship would already start to leave the ground and active the weapon when they got out to help clear the Death Watch there. Also Anakin is better on pilot skill so he might be able to fly it better.

It's not certain, but he definitely could be a very good asset to increase the chance for Satine to be rescued right? I guess now you know why I was so angry about it days before.

 

Epic episode! That's why I love star wars and TCW.

 

The Shadow Conspiracy book was written like it was almost certain Maul was dead, with a small chance he would come back. Glad the episode was clear on the fact that this was not the end of Maul. "The Lawless" was great as the finale to this arc, but not as the conclusion to the Darth Maul story, there’s so much potentially cool stories left to tell about Maul, The Shadow Collective, Death Watch and Mandalore. It will be really cool to see how they are going to top this arc the next time we get a Darth Maul story.



Interesting that Sidious said he had other uses for Maul, in other words it isn’t one specific task he wishes Maul to perform, he will become Sidious`s agent again. Probably intends to have him as a backup apprentice in case Anakin dies in the war.

 

Yes and she failed that time, I guess she was preparing her men to start that big fight we later saw at that time and she thought Satine could not change anything.

He could deflect maybe one or two, if they could fly up quick enough that's what they need to worry about. And that's actually quite a few more seconds for them to get out from the range of those Death watch, the weapon could also be activated sooner to help clear out a few more Death Watch when they got out.

Overall, bringing Anakin would increase the chance for Satine to be rescued quite a bit. Why refuse it?

 

He refused because he knew the writers would see to it that Satine was killed no matter what he did.

Or: he's human and he's not perfect.

 

There are no more epic stories to tell, he has been replaced and the only thing that saved him is the fact Sidious was impressed with his survival. Maul is about to become a useful test subject, who will be shown no mercy... I wonder if he will last as long as Venamis.

 

I'm hoping we see more about the relationship between Mother Talzin and the Sith, we'll probably find out that Sidious and Talzin dated back in the day or they are brother and sister or maybe both.

 

possibly and didn't Filoni say that we will see Talzin again in S6?

 

Not sure if he did say S6 but he did say her story isn't over and we'll find out why she wants Maul so bad.

 

Maybe Maul will be roommates with the zillo beast at where ever the hell Palpatine keeps these things.

 

Yes but in the plot it's partly his fault.

I hope you understand it, imagine if Obi Wan was killed like that, someone who has a close relationship with him could get help can could have changed the situation but didn't choose to. I guess you will not be very fine with that person as well.

 

This was truly a great episode from beginning to end and a great end to the Maul Arc. Action was great helped by the animation the fight between Sidious, Maul and Savage while good still is slightly below the Vizsla VS Maul fight probably because that like Dave said on a behind the scenes vid felt like an act in it's own right whereas this fight does appear towards the end though it's really entertaining and Sidious moves fast for an old guy. The emotional scenes are really strong Savage and Satine's deaths being brutal and powerful and well performed and speaking of that acting was great. Clancy Brown, Anna Graves and Katee Sackoff all did great but the true stars that shine here are James Arnold Taylor, Sam Witwer and the late Ian Abercrombie. This was my favourite performance James has given as Obi-Wan and I hope they are working on getting Sam an emmy for his brillaint, chilling, dark, emotionally fragile and intimidating as hell portrayal of Maul in this episode. Ian in his final performance does great and it's sad this is his last but it is a good thing that his final performance is his best. Really a great episode and will definitely rank in my favourite episode list among some of my other favourites. Great job to everyone involved in this episode and I hope next week's episode and the ones following will be just as good.

 

Obi-Wan is my favorite non-TCW character. I'm not mad at Luke and Han for not being able to save him on the Death Star and I'm not mad at Vader for killing him. Same goes for my favorite TCW characters when their time comes. It's war.

All these stories took place A Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far, Far Away. Satine would have died at some point anyways.

 

Yoda's line in ROTS gets backed up by this episode, Kenobi would have gotten crushed if he went after the Emperor instead of riding with Padme.

 

He'd have been gutted "like a Rokarian dirt-fish" the second he walked through the door..

 

For the many problems I have with TCW, I must admit this episode was pretty damn good. Darth Sidious in action makes anything better.

 

But Luke and Han got no other ways, they even need Obi Wan to save them. And it's not like Satine gave up to get killed.

 

Full duel

 

My god its episodes like this that make the Jedis utter idiots. Palps sneaks off world to Mandalore busts out the force and no one senses him at all. Come on Obi-wan that is just pathetic.

 

if Yoda can't sense the dark side in Palps, neither would Obi-Wan,

 

Yes but there is a difference when the guy is using the frakking dark side. Sure I can understand when Palps is standing around doing nothing but come on he is using force chokes and force lightning. How the frak is he covering himself when he is using the force?

But even ignoring the force use, come on Palps sneaks off and the same day Maul and Savage fall. It does not take a genius to put 2 and 2 together.

 

Yoda could not sense it before because Sidious was hiding his power, but once he showed out his power that's a different story.

 

But the only geniuses are those on this board; the GFFA has none.