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Senate Gun Control

Discussion in 'Community' started by Ghost, Dec 14, 2012.

  1. LandoThe CapeCalrissian

    LandoThe CapeCalrissian Jedi Youngling star 3

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    well youd be wrong than

    heres another article from the british medical journal


    http://psychcentral.com/news/2006/06/30/can-adult-sex-offenders-be-rehabilitated/60.html


    it clearly states that some type of sex offenders can show signs of slight improvement. This probably has to do with people who flash. It clearly states pedophilia cases show no signs of being rehabbed. It even says in a 10 year study the overwhelming majority re offended.
     
  2. V-2

    V-2 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Nobody questioned your love of children.
     
  3. Stackpole_The_Hobbit

    Stackpole_The_Hobbit Jedi Master star 6

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    I think something written 20 years ago with no scientific validity to begin with on the topic of SCIENCE should be re-evaluated, yes.

    As for my views on the subject, I must be completely honest: I do not have enough experience in the field of rehabilitation, psychology, or criminal behaviour, to comfortably and reliably say one way or other whether an entire group of people can have their behaviour changed through therapy.

    But what I am comfortable saying is that I seriously doubt that such a generalisation as "its (sic) a known fact predators of children cannot be rehabilitated" is definitely 100% true.

    EDIT: Hey, progress! An actual reliable source!

    EDIT 2: Oh, wait, not really. Heh.
     
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  4. Fire_Ice_Death

    Fire_Ice_Death Force Ghost star 7

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    Of course. That would be the goal in any treatment. It's really all that can be done with most mental illness as well.


    I wish I could like this more than once. [face_laugh]
     
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  5. V-2

    V-2 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I remember when we used to discuss gun control.
     
  6. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    Nobody is disputing that. However, based on the fact you have zero kids of your own, do you think maybe telling the parents in the thread about how to look after kids is perhaps something we can disregard as irrelevant?
     
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  7. Spider-Fan

    Spider-Fan Jedi Master star 4

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    I wish I lived in Lando's world of absolute black and white simplicity.


    Wait, no I don't.
     
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  8. Juliet316

    Juliet316 39x Hangman Winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    Okay, to swing this back to the original created topic, did anybody see Obama's gun control speech today?
     
  9. LandoThe CapeCalrissian

    LandoThe CapeCalrissian Jedi Youngling star 3

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    or I can live in your world where I feel more sympathy for the child rapist vs the child who was raped...


    the far liberal mind is outstandingly complex
     
  10. LandoThe CapeCalrissian

    LandoThe CapeCalrissian Jedi Youngling star 3

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    one thing has nothing to do with the other. I don't need to have children to also have no remorse for child rapists like Sandusky.. IMO they should throw him to the wolves. literally a pack of starving pit bulls.
     
  11. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    Right, but that's your need for revenge and it's not about justice.

    Please advise how this relates to needed measures to curtail ease of access to, and unrestrained use of, firearms?
     
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  12. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Well, that went around in circles. This is more fun.
     
  13. Fire_Ice_Death

    Fire_Ice_Death Force Ghost star 7

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    Here's what your article actually says:

    You're really bad at this, but at least you're getting closer to the present..
     
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  14. Juliet316

    Juliet316 39x Hangman Winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    I'm not a fan of child rapists either, but I agree, let's get back to the topic of gun control.
     
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  15. Spider-Fan

    Spider-Fan Jedi Master star 4

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    Your assumptions are amusing but I have not stated my sympathy for the rapists, a lack of sympathy for the victims nor have I stated any political affiliation whatsoever. I've simply called into question your sources. Pardon me for not buying your argument blindly.
     
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  16. LandoThe CapeCalrissian

    LandoThe CapeCalrissian Jedi Youngling star 3

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    this topic did go off hand.. I didn't start this it was brought up by another poster earlier on and away it went.

    you can call it what you want, revenge, justice, blah blah blah.. it doesn't change the fact that child rapists aren't rehabilitated and they continue to abuse children... so I have not one shred of remorse for a 50 year old man who has forced sex with a 5 year old girl....

    and neither should you...
     
  17. Darth-Lando

    Darth-Lando Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Not wanting to execute rapists = feeling sympathy for them?

    Not just sympathy, but MORE sympathy than for their victim?

    No one. I repeat, NO ONE has said or even implied this in the history of mankind. Not even "teh evil libertards!"

    ...maybe the Catholic church. No one else though.
     
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  18. LandoThe CapeCalrissian

    LandoThe CapeCalrissian Jedi Youngling star 3

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    and I provided 3 sources, 2 NY Times articles and one from the British Journal of Medicine.. you simply disregard them... even though they all contain reports from people in the field.
     
  19. Juliet316

    Juliet316 39x Hangman Winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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  20. Spider-Fan

    Spider-Fan Jedi Master star 4

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    Actually you've posted unsourced articles that are vague and inconclusive.
     
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  21. LandoThe CapeCalrissian

    LandoThe CapeCalrissian Jedi Youngling star 3

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    what I said was I wouldn't care if they were all executed, hence I have no sympathy for them.. People on here could defend them and say try rehab, which is proven not to work, buti couldn't care less what happens to a 50 year old man whos abused 25 children during his life...

    I legit DO NOT care if they put him in a box and bury him in the ground alive. On this issue I have no remorse for them. Not a shred.

    when the Sandusky fiasco dropped we heard on the news things like "all people who rape children were abused themselves as children, while all abused children DO NOT grow up to be rapists of children." some choose not to rape even though they have been raped. so I have no sympathy for the ones who take it upon themselves to ruin a innocent childs life.
     
  22. LandoThe CapeCalrissian

    LandoThe CapeCalrissian Jedi Youngling star 3

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    lmaoooo


    I mean no matter what I do youll disagree.

    You are the gemmiest gems of all gems.... Who else but you would discredit the British Journal of Medicine and 2 NY TIMES articles and say "nope I need more"

    I could fill a state with info on this and youll say "NOPE I need more"
     
  23. Fire_Ice_Death

    Fire_Ice_Death Force Ghost star 7

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    This Mr. TheCape has brought me lots of laughs tonight. +1 internets for you good sir.
     
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  24. Spider-Fan

    Spider-Fan Jedi Master star 4

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    You misunderstand. We aren't stating we need more. We are stating we need credible sources. Big difference.
     
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  25. PRENNTACULAR

    PRENNTACULAR VIP star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    This is awesome.