Discussion WILL THEY BE ANY GOOD?

I was talking to a friend about the a few months ago. He said, "After the PT trilogy, Star Wars can't go any place but up."

I think Abrams will have many comparing Episode 7 to Star Trek, to see if he can do with one what he did for the other. Either way with a great screen writer and a Director well suited for this type of movie, it's will no doubt be concidered better that any of the Prequel movies.

 

Lord Lucas weeps. Oh does he weep.

 

There's something about that phrase "apply the same formula to SW" that breaks my heart.

 

For me, "good" means fun, exciting, fulfilling, and rewatchable.

Star Trek into Darkness is already widely anticipated but I'm expecting an extra boost in the film's interest by those curious about J.J. Abrams' work.
Anyway, one description of a movie that often annoys me is that it is "good". First of all, a lot of movies I hear described as "good" just aren't to my liking. "Good" seems to often be based on Friday Night Outing Entertainment Value. You went out with friends, you ate at a restaurant, you told jokes about co-workers and kittens, you saw a movie and your friends/date liked it too along with the popcorn you ate with it, so by the end of the night, everything was "good". This is one reason why I prefer to watch movies alone. I don't want to be distracted thinking about how it entertains another person. It is so vague and subjective that I never know how to answer the question "was it good?" I hate that question. I hate that people who know I hate that question keep asking me that question. People said The Avengers was "good." I didn't like it. Maybe it was "good", but I didn't like it. I think the new films will be generally appealing to people--but hopefully not too appealing to the theater-going masses--but certain STAR WARS fans will really dislike them no matter what simply because of the canon idea thing (and go see them ten times to come up with more reasons why).

 

Is this another "will the new movies suck like the PT?" thread?

 

Well, this is the $64,000 question, isn't it? While I'm excited by all of the recent developments, a lot of the people I know are rather cynical regarding the prospects for the new films. Ultimately, the proof is in the pudding. We'll just have to wait and see. There are a lot of indicators to me that we could possibly see a kind of renaissance for Star Wars, but of course I wouldn't want to jump the gun on that call. It looks like Lucasfilm is pulling together a great deal of talented people to get this right, and that's encouraging. My only real concern is that they don't get overly ambitious and bite off more than they can chew.

 

There's no way they'll be bad. Chances of them being as poorly received as the prequel trilogy... very low.

They might be average, and there's a good chance they'll be "Good" or better. I'm willing to bet there will be plenty of critics who compare the quality to Empire Strikes Back.

 

We'll just have to wait and see. I personally don't hold much hope. I am afraid Disney is going to milk it completely dry, worrying more about profit than quality. As if they weren't rich enough already.

I am already annoyed and nearly fed up with the constant stream of rumors and hype. People can't just enjoy something, they have to obsess and take it too far. I just enjoy things for what they are, I don't freak out and let it run my life. Soaking up every rumor and news bit like it is an addiction. It frankly makes me sick how people react to things these days.

 

This is what you and the person sitting next to you will say to each other as soon as the credits roll.

 

Can't be any worse than AotC, which is one of the worst big budget movies ever made.

 

I am with you 100%.

I stated something similar elsewhere, but people cite the success of Marvel in the standalone films and Avengers, but I do think this is a very different beast. Those same characters in Marvel have had standalone comics for years. Avengers has a "roster" that turns over as a natural order of things. Star Wars is very different. This isn't a team that gets together for bigger action than they can handle on their own, this is about a group of people brought together through an extraordinary confluence of events.

The films can work well, but the formula isn't as simple as Marvel. There has to be a good reason for films in Star Wars, particularly standalone films. We don't need to know the origins of every character (especially Yoda).

Star Wars will take more complex writing and a greater effort because Star Wars is more complex and is a greater universe than the Marvel universe.

(I say this as HUGE Avengers fan, I've read nearly every Avengers comic published).

 

If Abrams' Star Trek is any indication the new films will be good enough to watch once, mildly enjoy the dumb fun, and never have any desire to go through the experience again.

 

Time will tell. We'll find out when we see them.

 

Ummmm

 

I agree, Battlefield Earth is also one of the worst.

 

Lucas' competition. Scientologists. The whole Jediism thing.....

 

Ooooo, just got some pre-prequel flashbacks. Out, damn thoughts. Out, I say.

 

No fair quoting from a Magic 8-Ball.

 

You know what? VII has to be very good. If Disney expects to maximize their investment, they must come out strong here. The prequels really damaged the brand. I dont buy into the idea that people will go see this film, or any SW film, just because its SW.

Maybe in the 80's they would've. Times are very different now, and this VII thing is going to make or break the future of the franchise. So, be glad Lucas is away from it. Kennedy, by the way, is behind some of the best loved and highest grossing films of all time. It's in very very good hands.

 

She did the Goonies that all we need to know. Darth Chunk. Other than that her filmography is most impressive. I hope she can help craft an epic feel to the new trilogy. I wonder if she's gonna bring in Frank Marshall (husband) as they seem to have worked on a lot of films together.

 

Well, yes of course! I meant that now they know how to make a genre movie successful, with good casting, top-notch effects and whatnot. That sort of formula.... I completely agree that they need more complex writing and a much greater effort. And I'm confident they will do so.

I'm sad that Lawjedi thinks I'm no fun anymore...
NOT!

 

I'm sad because Monty Python references shouldn't require explanation.

 

I, for one, did not find Attack of the Clones all that terrible

*ducks head*

I think that Count Dooku was under-utilized as a character and I'll admit that the chemistry between Anakin and Padme was non-existent. But, I did enjoy Jango Fett and Kamino. And I, for one, liked watching Yoda kick major tail.