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With Crennel running that team, you actually probably would have. Dude's a trainwreck (coming from a Browns fan)

 

That would be the absolute smart thing to do. They could trade down to perhaps a 5-10 pick, pick up that possible rookie QB and get another pick or two, for some of the later rounds. None of the QB's in this year's draft are worth wasting a #1 overall on.

 

Everyone wants to trade down, but who in their right mind is going to want to trade up?


As for the sumo wrestler discussion, I don't see a sumo wrestler being able to play offensive line in today's NFL. Even the centers are pulling to block on the edge from time to time and I don't see them being able to do that. Only place on the field I could see them fitting in would be at the nose on 1st and 2nd down as they aren't going to get a pass rush, could see them commanding some double teams and collapsing the pocket though.

 

So the first player chosen is going be Mr. Irrelevant.

 

Plenty of teams will want to trade up. Not many will want to give up a ton to do so. Joekel is a heck of a take. Could be a franchise piece on the level of a Joe Thomas.

 

I would love to see the Steelers trade up and get Joekel but that isn't gonna happen. The Steelers are so week on the O line but they have bigger holes on defense. I hope they grab a running back in round two.

 

Heart condition sidelines Combine hopeful.

Jeff Fisher interview on Gregg Williams

 

NOOOOOOO!!! AJ Smith is joining the Redskins as an 'advisor' No, keep that Team killer away from the Redskins, Dammit!

 

Eagles make cuts.

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Tom Brady restructures Contract

Giant restructures Contract

 

Roethlesberger is expected to restructure his deal to free up a bunch of cap room by weeks end. Timmons already has today so thats a plus. Rumor is they are pretty interested in wide receiver Steve Breaston. I don't understand this at all. Breaston is a slot receiver they have a handful of those. They need to replace or sign Wallace. Putting a slot guy on the end is kind of blah.

 

Nah, Clark Hunt wouldn't have let him do that. He values his investments a bit more. And Crennel is an idiot, but I don't think he would have pushed RG3 to play that injured.

 

So it's all Shanahan's fault for RGIII's injury? There's like, no way that RGIII, knowing how high the stakes were in the Dallas game, didn't just say all the right things the coaches wanted to hear and hid any pain/sorness/stiffness he was feeling in his knee; then paid for it a week later in the Seattle game? I mean, yes, the coaches should have had more talks with James Andrews about the condition of RGIII's leg was before letting him play in Dallas and Seattle, but let's face it, in the NFL these days unless it's a concussion, if a team's best player says he's ready to play, then 90% of the time a coach is going to let that player play (Gronk for example, you could easily make the case that perhaps if Belichek had put Gronk on injured reserve instead of letting in play in the playoffs, then he wouldn't have needed three surgeries for his broken arm already). And most players admit they will downplay/hide injures to get back out on the field.


Yes, Shanahan probably deserves a big chunk of the blame for rushing RGIII back on the field before he was truly ready, but I don't think it's as absolutely 100% as you believe.

 

Alex Smith has been traded to the Chiefs. Finally that team makes a good move

 

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Probably the best thing the Chiefs could have done. Now dump that #1 pick for some middle round hidden gems.

 

It's about time. The Niners pretty much ruined Smith's career from day one. Glad to see Smith finally get away from them and hopefully have a better time of it in KC.

 

Now KC doesn't have to draft a QB and place their future in the unknown abilities of a rookie player.

 

Apparently their also going to cut Cassell as well.

Edit: The Combine tradition continues.

 

Now? You clearly didn't read my posts during the game But seriously, if I at home could tell that they were going to get him seriously injured, how could Shanahan not? I mean, of course he had to know that was possible, but he's so incredibly arrogant in the way he coaches that I'm sure he thought RGIII would be invincible. But the bottom line is that he shouldn't have even been playing in that game. And even if he was, he shouldn't have been running. And even if he was, he shouldn't have kept running when they could have given it to other people and he could hardly even walk at that stage. These are a head coach's decisions to make, bottom line. It rests almost entirely on Shanahan's shoulders because, guess what, that's the responsibility you assume when you're a leader and it's ultimately your call whether someone plays and how they are utilized if they do play. Period. Sorry Shanahan, but coaching isn't all about finding creative ways to cheat, as much as we know you like doing that.

The problem is that I don't think they're going to be able to trade down. I mean I guess if someone really wants a QB and wants to reach. The thing is, in my heart I still believe Geno Smith has the tools to be a really good NFL QB. I'm not saying that means he necessarily will be, and I totally understand the risk involved... but it just rubs me the wrong way to not even go after such an opportunity. I'm not kidding, I would do what Seattle did and still draft a QB even though we have a veteran. Because the thing is, we still don't have any good backups at all either, and we have gotten burned in the past trading for QBs is all.

I mean, yes, Alex Smith is way better than Cassel ever was, even his one year starting in New England. And it's obviously a much higher level of confidence than having to draft and develop a rookie. As you guys probably know, I like Alex Smith a lot. I think it's a good get, I'm just disappointed our first ever first overall pick had to come in such a crappy draft. I mean, I don't really think there are players in any position who are worth #1 overall money in this draft. Just our luck.

Nothing's ever a sure thing. But the only big downside to this of course is that even if Smith stays on a roll and doesn't slip back into mediocrity again (which I don't think he will), he's still 28. But here's the thing, and what I've tried to tell my mom (who is really pissed about this because she really wanted to draft Geno)... Trent Green was 30 when we traded for him, and he was the best QB we've had since Len Dawson. With Alex Smith, we might only get 6-8 years really, but if they are a good 6-8 years I really don't care. I am guardedly optimistic.

 

There's talk of the 49ers interested in trading some of the million picks they have for Revis. Not sure if the jets are even interested in entertaining that idea. But if I was the Chiefs I would dangle that #1 pick plus another pick for Revis. People want to point out that Revis has crappy numbers the last few years. But what they forget is that it's hard to put up numbers when the QB ignores your half of the field. Shutting down half the field for the offense > stats.

 

yea. deion sanders had the same problem. although he'd still force the issue sometimes.

 

HEY! You spelled his name right.

 

So apparently a few NFL teams are in trouble for asking about players' sexual orientation at the Combine. No word yet on who those teams are but several players including Denard Robinson say they were asked if they were homosexual or not.

And ESPN is saying the Ravens and Flacco have a deal.