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ST Who's The Baddie?

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by fishtailsam, Oct 31, 2012.

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  1. Darth slaughter

    Darth slaughter Jedi Padawan star 1

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  2. Darth Dru

    Darth Dru Jedi Youngling star 1

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    You took a play right out of my book lol. I like the way you think.
     
  3. Darth slaughter

    Darth slaughter Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Everyone wants something different it seems.
    We just got to hope that whatever the new movie does that it does it right
     
  4. Jcuk

    Jcuk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    It's imperative that they get this right, otherwise the film and the rest of the trilogy will be doomed (which they will obviously be well aware of) I wonder if when Lucas handed over his drafts for the ST that he'd been working on, the reaction was," yeah thanks we'll be sure to have a good look at this" ( while nonchalantly tossing it over his shoulder)
     
  5. Darth Dru

    Darth Dru Jedi Youngling star 1

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    This idea is similar to the story i wrote back in '99.
     
  6. Jcuk

    Jcuk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    What, you mean another galaxy even further away than the one far, far away?
     
  7. Darth Dru

    Darth Dru Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Yes, sort of. The main antagonist could be a new kind of force user from outside the SW galaxy. Or perhaps an altogether different kind of evil that threatens the very existence of midichlorians. A super-powerful anti-midichlorian being of sorts. Something along those lines.
     
  8. Darthsuggs

    Darthsuggs Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    cosmicbooknews is notorious for being inaccurate according to Latino Review (which is usually on par). I hope this is right as all these things are practical. The only way to make it interesting bringing the Sith back is for it to be different than what we have seen previously ie more than two...or female. Any change from the same character structure we've seen makes it less a retread.
     
  9. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Like matter and anti-matter? The anti-forcer?
    Darth Dru
    Or perhaps an altogether different kind of evil that threatens the very existence of midichlorians. A super-powerful anti-midichlorian being of sorts. Something along those lines.


    Darth Dru, your villain reminds me of the DC comics series Crisis on Infinite Earths and it's villain, The Anti-Monitor.....who used an anti-matter gun to destroy the alternate worlds of DC's universe(Earth 1,2,3,etc)....leading to the unified universe at the end.
     
  10. LunarMoth

    LunarMoth Jedi Master star 4

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    Lucas refused to show them the treatments until they agreed that they would use them and had to trust his creative vision. Once they showed him the agreement, he provided the treatments, which they liked. Lucas had no intention of selling to them if they did not agree to adhear to his vision for the ST.
     
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  11. Darth_Pevra

    Darth_Pevra Chosen One star 6

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    ShaneP
    Already got that. Called Darth Nihilus and he was pretty cool (because he was as weak in a way as he was strong).
     
  12. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well, there you go....already created. Slap him into the film......billion dollars.
     
  13. Jcuk

    Jcuk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Really? That's quite interesting. So Lucas was basically saying 'this is what I want or you can forget it'
     
  14. Grilled Hutt

    Grilled Hutt Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Was it ever clear who Anakins Father was? GL was ambigous about if it was midi chlorians or a force user having the power of creating life as Sidious stated in the PT.
    Since the saga was always a story about the skywalkers and ST is episode 7 it seems clear that the story has to be about Luke. Rather than introduce a new villian/sith/threat/empire et cetera why not have the baddie be Anakins "Father"? - Perhaps betrayal locked him up somewhere, maybe he was stuck, maybe palpatine manipulated him to his advantage,who knows - Now we have a villian who psychologically can mess with skywalker because in essence he created Luke too via Anakin. Whatever the reason is he finally reappears on the scene and he makes palpatine look like a boy scout who got lucky.
     
  15. Circular Logic

    Circular Logic Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm pretty sure Anakin was conceived by Shmi and the Force itself, purportedly in response to Darth Plagueis's experiments on the midichlorians, so he does not have a father. Ironically, Plagueis had claimed he could create the Chosen One with his experiments, and he might have indirectly had a hand in Anakin's birth.
     
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  16. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    I would be willing to bet if it's to be Plagueis then he will essentially take the place of Palpatine for what appears to be a Dark Empire storyline. Episode 8 might end with an important Force user, if not Luke then Han and Leia's child, turning to the darkside to defeat it from within.
     
  17. Son of a Bith

    Son of a Bith Jedi Master star 4

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    Yup, or the Emperor Reborn himself. Used to cringe at the idea, but after much time considering the opera scene and the Plagueis immortality plot, I think it would actually tie the three trilogies together quite well. Anakin's unhealthy attachment (selfish love) is his downfall in PT, he's redeemed by his son's healthy attachment to/unselfish love for him in the OT, then Luke's attachments (to his sister/extended family?) are tested while he tries to take down the Emperor Reborn from inside.

    Posted this idea on this board before, but so what! lol
     
  18. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    Lol, I'm pretty sure I posted this before as well.
     
  19. Son of a Bith

    Son of a Bith Jedi Master star 4

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    It's funny how the Plagueis thing makes DE more plausable.
     
  20. Darth Downunder

    Darth Downunder Chosen One star 6

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    The idea was that Palpatine manipulated the midi's to "create" Anakin. Remember Palgueis taught him everything he knew before Palpy killed him. This is confirmed by earlier drafts of RotS. Palpy tells Anakin about creating him using the Force & says "so you could say I'm like your Father". Anakin replies "that's impossible!". I believe this dialogue may have even been filmed. Apparently GL changed his mind about Anakin's turn at the last minute & re shot alot of scenes.
     
  21. Jedi Comedian

    Jedi Comedian Jedi Master star 3

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    So, as I see it, there are generally 5 categories of main villain that could appear in the ST, with regards to their relationship to Palpatine (the primary antagonist for Episodes I-VI):

    1. Palpatine himself, returned from the dead somehow.
    2. Palpatine's superior; a master who was behind everything the whole time.
    3. Palpatine's successor; a pupil or inheritor of some sort
    4. A threat kept at bay by Palpatine and the Sith/Empire
    5. A completely unrelated villain

    For me, it would have to be one of 1-4 to feel like a proper conclusion to the Star Wars saga (there will also have to be Skywalkers involved). 5 would just be a random epilogue.

    If I had to guess, I'd go for 3 (that recent rumour about Palpatine's disciple hit pretty close to the mark of what I'm expecting). Thoughts?
     
  22. Eeth-my-Koth

    Eeth-my-Koth Jedi Grand Master star 9

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    50 pages later and no one has fixed the title?
     
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  23. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    I'd say the order they're listed in is the order of likeliness (chosen one prophecy aside).

    1. Palpatine is the archnemesis of the Skywalkers.
    2. Palpatine's predessecor/superior/master is the one villain that could would "outdo" Palpatine himself.
     
  24. Darth slaughter

    Darth slaughter Jedi Padawan star 1

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    What if palpatine/plagueis did have a hand in the creation of anakin.... And what if anakin was not the only one to be born to the force via their experiments....What if there was another?

    Or something different... What if palpatine had a son/daughter? The anti christ type.
    He had all that power, probably had a lot of females knocking around him... I'm sure old palps got the urge sometimes? :)
    Maybe his son/daughter wants revenge...
    Revenge of the Sith..... Shame that's already been done!
     
  25. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Could audiences handle seeing a child who is the cross between Plapy and Sly Moore on the screen?
     
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