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JCC Gay Adoption

Discussion in 'Community' started by Diggy , Mar 21, 2013.

  1. Spider-Fan

    Spider-Fan Jedi Master star 4

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    Reading through this thread has opened my eyes to my own unfortunate biases, and made me realize that I need to study more from the book of Harpuah on the subject of being open minded and not passing along any of my biases to my children.
     
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  2. Diggy

    Diggy Chosen One star 8

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    Just watch Modern Family.
     
  3. Diggy

    Diggy Chosen One star 8

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    On child biases, I'm all for them. For example, my three will all support Liverpool Football Club. There is no other option.
     
  4. epic

    epic Ex Mod star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    your poor children.
     
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  5. Boba_Fett_2001

    Boba_Fett_2001 Chosen One star 8

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    I'd hang out with Arlol. :p
     
  6. Harpua

    Harpua Chosen One star 9

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    What would be your dream date with Arlol?
     
  7. Diggy

    Diggy Chosen One star 8

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    They'll be taught not to hop on something, ask for a website relevant to that something and then trot out opinions copied from the website regarding that something.
     
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  8. Boba_Fett_2001

    Boba_Fett_2001 Chosen One star 8

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    To be in one of his groundbreaking videos.
     
  9. Bale

    Bale Jedi Master star 4

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    All your bias are belong to us
     
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  10. wannasee

    wannasee Jedi Master star 4

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    I guess I can't think of a good argument against this, but if two couples were equally qualified, a gay couple and a straight couple, I would give the kid to the straight couple.

    What would you all do in that situation? Flip a coin?

    And don't cop out by saying that no two couples are equally qualified...
     
  11. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Yes, flip a coin.

    How would one decide between two straight couples who are equally qualified?
     
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  12. Bale

    Bale Jedi Master star 4

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    cut the kid in half; it's the only fair thing to do.
     
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  13. thesevegetables

    thesevegetables Jedi Knight star 4

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    I think gay people should be able to adopt.
    France doesn't, apparently. There's this thing called PACS that gives gays similar economic benefits as married people but doesn't let them adopt. Which is totally weird because single people can adopt others in France yet two gay people together can't. I thought having more than one parent is beneficial?

    If a gay man marries a lesbian woman, is that a gay marriage? :)
     
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  14. Condition2SQ

    Condition2SQ Jedi Master star 4

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    A gay French politician recently said, "The rights of children trump the rights of homosexuals to children".

    I have no problem whatsoever with homosexuality, but that seems like a pretty common sense statement me to me. All children have the right to have a mother and a father. That's not a loaded statement. It's a biological fact. Period.
     
  15. wannasee

    wannasee Jedi Master star 4

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    I guess flip a coin...

    I still would favor the traditional couple over the gay couple, since a man is not a mother and a woman is not a father, and I think both roles are important, even if not strictly necessary...
     
  16. Valairy Scot

    Valairy Scot Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    And if the "straight couples" don't want a particular kid, better for the kid to grow up in an orphanage than in a gay home?

    It *may* be easier for a kid to be raised by a straight couple, but who's to say the parents don't divorce, or one gets killed and the kid ends up in a one parent family? Or the straight couple fights all the time and it's a lousy home for the kid?

    Quality of parenting trumps all, I would think, FOR the kid's sake (as much as can be determined when allowing a couple to adopt).
     
  17. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 8

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    :confused:
     
  18. Mortimer Snerd

    Mortimer Snerd Force Ghost star 4

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    Mine would start with a casual drive through the countryside of Northern Virginia. We would marvel at the beauty of the cherry blossoms in May and the rolling green hills. We would discuss the word of god and never question the validity of whatever text he happened to have with him at the time. We would talk about about our favorite websites, like youtube and TFN, and how nobody "gets" us. Then I would totally blow a load in his beard.
     
  19. wannasee

    wannasee Jedi Master star 4

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    What don't you understand?
     
  20. Harpua

    Harpua Chosen One star 9

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    In all that derailment, I'm not sure if I even gave my thoughts on this topic. I absolutely believe that gay couples should be allowed to adopt.
     
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  21. Mortimer Snerd

    Mortimer Snerd Force Ghost star 4

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    I guess I'm still stuck on the absurd idea that gay couples, interracial couples, and same-race heterosexual couples are somehow different in their ability to raise children.

    Edit: Or that the idea of "couple" needs to be involved.
     
  22. wannasee

    wannasee Jedi Master star 4

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    Different dynamics produce different results. It's not absurd. It's logical.

    I mean, it might not produce a significant difference in your opinion, but the idea that there would be a difference isn't crazy...
     
  23. Mortimer Snerd

    Mortimer Snerd Force Ghost star 4

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    You are a gold mine, you know that?
     
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  24. Harpua

    Harpua Chosen One star 9

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    I wouldn't say that genitals produce different dynamics. A penis (or vagina) doesn't make somebody a parent. What's important in a child's life is love and support...being taught valuable life skills, being given attention and praise, the list goes on and on... gender really doesn't have as much to do with it as you think it does. Here's a couple of child abuse statistics


    • Most perpetrators in Indiana were natural parents; and men were only slightly more likely to abuse than women—21 compared to 18, respectively, of 39 total. (Indiana Department of Child Services (2005)Child Abuse and Neglect Annual Report of Child Fatalities from July 1, 2004 to June 30, 2005.)
    • A majority of abuse took place in two-parent households and 37 of the 54 fatalities were children with siblings. (Indiana Department of Child Services (2005) Child Abuse and Neglect Annual Report of Child Fatalities from July 1, 2004 to June 30, 2005.)
     
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  25. darth_gersh

    darth_gersh Force Ghost star 7

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    Not my place to tell anyone what they can or should be able to do.
     
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