Speculation What things from the PT do you want the ST to keep?

With regard to lightsabre fights, the PT was the Jedi in their supposed prime. The OT was the Jedi starting from scratch, hence the retconned difference in fighting styles. Where would that leave the ST?

 

Nothing wrong with high-speed lightsaber fights. The only CGI in those is some of the backgrounds and the glowing blade itself. Unless you count CGI Yoda and the cut/paste of Christopher's head...Actually, I kinda wish they had a good swordsmaster around for the OT. But it all worked out just fine...Obi-Wan and Vader were old, and Luke had no actual saber training in any of the classical Jedi styles.

And you can't have beings like Kaminoans and Dugs or Dexter Jetster without CGI.

Never had a problem with midichlorians, and I've been a fanboy since '78.

 

nothing, except John Williams. As far as CGI goes there has to be the right balance. Much of the PT looked "really cool" but also looked fake at the same time. Look closely at "The Hobbit" and compare it to LOTR, "The Hobbit was really visually stunning but that does not mean it looked more real. Disney and Lucasfilm can afford a few models, miniatures, and real life sets. It's not like this movie won't gross a billion dollars world wide even if it sucks....seriously.

 

1. The artistic grandeur of the planets from the PT, such as Coruscant, Naboo and Kamino.
2. The lightsaber fights.
3. The species that were introduced in the PT, such as Togruta, Muun and Kaminoans.
4. The Master/Padawan relationship.

 

You say that like the late '90s were so long ago and the technology was primitive.
The title of this topic makes me think of stylistic choices, but we've already seen that topic. I don't want to see anything that looks like it has been "rebooted". I'm almost certain this will have a more modern-looking yet professional filming style but hope it doesn't change how stuff like hyperspace jump shots or specific aliens look, like when Star Trek changed the transporting effect and the look of Romulans. That shouldn't be done simply to separate the two franchises so Abrams' SW doesn't just look like his own Star Trek.
"Parallel to real world events" was mostly a coincidence. Lucas obviously realized he could throw a few minor things in there ("you're either with me or against me") to make his story feel even more relative.

 

Fast and furious lightsaber battles. The music (Duel of the Fates, Battle of the Heroes).

I don't want to see characters from the PT in the ST where the only reason they weren't in the OT was because they weren't invented yet. For example, I love Darth Maul, but him showing up in Episode VII would be jarring. Also, I like double bladed lightsabers, but I kind of want to see that be Darth Maul's thing.

 

Everything!

 

CGI Yoda looks like a living, breathing being.
Puppet Yoda looks like a hand puppet.

 

I'd like them to keep the level of violence they had in 'Revenge Of The Sith' in terms of it was the most "shocking" and real of the current films. If that amount of realism can be used in the ST then I feel lots of other real moments can follow them to be a decent, more grown-up entry.

 

There hasnt been a single lightsaber fight that didnt have both problems and good aspects to them. In the OT the issue was obvious of lack of a skilled choreograpgher, especially with Obiwan vs Vader, though on the plus side the camera got really up close and personal.

With the PT you almost got the opposite problem, having great fights but due to many issues such as cgi and old actors being replaced by doubles (big fear here this issue will repeat itself with Hamill and Fisher) they kept the camera aiming at their backs or from a distance. The next issue I have with the PT fights where missing opportunities, such as Maul missing three or four chances to kill Quigon and once he finally does we dont see it (also that perfect stab is almost as bad as a certain whompa loosing his arm horizontially from a virticle cut).

That said the 10 epic seconds between Obiwan vs Maul still might be my favorite of the whole series, since it was brutal, upclose, and attacks came from every direction... still it could have been better if say Maul was given some dialog and Obiwan could have gotten some good acting thrown in their reacting to his taunts. As to Obiwan vs Anakin, my issues stem more from Lucas having to throw in dodging lava and the whole 'I have the high ground' logic that didnt help Maul previously, the fight itself was mostly pretty good.

In short though, Id love more high speed saber fights but they need that Empire Strikes Back brutality to them and willingness to get the camera 2 feet from the actors face in the midst of the action that the PT never really did with CGI fights involving Yoda or stunt doubles such as Dooku's case since Lee was just so old.

 

I think you so wrong. Go compare the fight between Anakin and Obi in ANH and ROTS, the original trilogy duels have now become a joke. The Phantom menace ones? What the one fight? And the sort of fight on tatooine? In the cinema when Yoda 'unleashed his inner beast' there was a loud gasp from everyone in the theatre. It was awesome and so was dooku.

 

The Jedi Starfighters Anakin and Obi-Wan were in in ROTS.
Some previous events mentioned.
Midi-Chlorians if Plagueis comes back.
Some fast paced lightsaber duels but not for all of them. Have a variety. Some OT style duels, Some PT style duels and a mix of both styles.
Bring in some PT era aliens.

 

FYI about the swordmaster for the OT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Anderson_(fencer)
In terms of swordplay chops, he blows Nick Gillard out of the water.

So maybe you meant:
" I kinda wish they had a stylized fight choreographer around for the OT."
Which is a fair criticism, the fights are not kinetically exciting.

 

All of it.

 

Does the concept of having pretty people with nice hair count *except mace...poor mace*? Cause if so then heck yeah If not then I kinda liked some of the pretty outfits the women wore.

 

How about elder Jar Jar Binks as the head of the new Jedi Council. He's force sensitive. Midi-Chlorian chart off the scale. I can see him accidentally turning on his light saber and getting it caught in his sleeve during battles and tripping over it as he slashes and kills angry and blustering Dark Jedi....or maybe not.

 

Death Sticks.

 

What would I like to see kept? Well, certainly there are story elements and traditions from both the PT and OT I hope to see kept, and in-universe mentions of things such as Order 66 or the Battle of First Geonosis would be great, but I'm going to offer something a little different from that and say that I hope they keep the visible lightsaber wounds (you know, that little golden glow that would show up during a point-of-contact?) that things like Luke's battle with Jabba's henchmen on the sail barge could really benefit from. Yeah, I hope we get more of that.

 

Ugh, I'm so tired of this argument. Is it easy to overlook how much excellent model work there was in the prequels? Absolutely, but that's more because CGI is so ubiquitous everywhere else in the films, not because the CGI itself was ever that convincing (watch AOTC on blu-ray; it isn't).

As for the topic of the thread, I want the visual style to maintain the rich colors of the prequels, and the grand scale of course. Let most of the design aspects go, I want a return to the hard shapes and classic look of the OT, just more vibrant.

As for the extent to which CGI should be used, I want to mention two things:

1. By 2015, CGI will be so effective and convincing that I'm not sure if I'm even going to care how much of it is used. For example, I bet you didn't know that New York City in the final battle of the Avengers was completely CGI in every shot! Also, check out the trailer for Elysium. Ep7 is going to look twice as good as THAT.

2. I think the high point of the series, as far as combining CGI with practical effects, is Naboo in episodes 1&2. The wide vista shots use awesome, detailed models for the buildings, and CG matte's for the landscapes and backgrounds. The interiors of the buildings, such as the queens throne room and Padmes lake house, are physical sets that look real and have texture, unlike many of the interiors of Coruscant such as Palpatines office, which were annoyingly and unnescasarily greenscreened.

ALSO, for anyone looking for more in depth discussion and speculation as to the style of lightsaber combat we might see in the upcoming films, I'd like to direct you to this thread:

http://boards.theforce.net/threads/...ern-influence-for-lightsaber-combat.50010260/

 

Not much.

I hope Coruscant blows up at the end of Episode 7.

 

This is kind of a strangely-worded question. I can say with almost absolute certainty that Jar Jar will not appear in the ST, but that doesn't mean he'll have been retconned out of existence, which is the impression I get from "keep".