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I didn't want to say this in the Ender's Game JCC thread, but... this looks better than the book.

But that might be because I imagined y'know, a bunch of 6 and 7 year-olds. Because the book told me to.

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Although the trailer is upwards to 50%+ the last couple of chapters. Pffft.

 

I've never actually finished that novel.

 

I read it a few months ago and I can definitely see where you're coming from with that.

The ending's what makes it. But the characters pissed me off. The sequels were somewhat better.

 

Yeah, I think I tried reading it sophomore year, got bored, tried Revelation Space, got bored, tried Wheel of Time, got bored, picked up A Game of Thrones, got hooked.

 

I still need to read Ender's Game. Granted, I'm a little uncomfortably supporting such a bigoted windbag of an author. Still, I'm generally the type of person that likes to take the creator of a work completely out of the equation and enjoy the work (hence my enjoyment of The Smiths and Morrissey, though I must say I find Morrissey much less annoying than others do). Maybe that's irresponsible, but I've never been accused of being responsible.

Barriss_Coffee: One reason I haven't read it already is its a giant series, and I'm already dealing with one of those right now (Malazan). Do all of them manage to stay interesting, or is it only really worth it for the first few?

 

He's in it, played by this guy. And I agree entirely.

 

The thing that makes it even more difficult to support Orson Scott Card, I'd say, is that he channels your support into his bigotry. From what I've heard, he funds his own anti-gay marriage smear campaigns using the proceeds he earns from his books. If all goes well, the movie should make him a rich (or richer) man. Of course, he'll just be a slightly louder, slightly more annoying voice, but I still don't like throwing money at those people.

But like I said, if I did a background check on every creator of the things I buy, I suspect I'd have to spend a lot more time outside.

 

I only read this one, Speaker of the Dead, and part of Xenocide. I have no idea if that's the right order because apparently they jump all over the timeline, but Speaker of the Dead seems to follow Ender's Game and was a FAR better story. It felt like an entirely different author and genre, and the pace was entirely different. I'm not sure if I'm going to continue the series because I sort of despise the characters, but I'd definitely recommend reading Speaker of the Dead if you like weird sci-fi. Ender's Game is.... blech.

Point Given: Yeah, Peter was interesting. I hated him too. But in the good way. If he's not in the film I'll blame PETA.

 

Conceptually, I always found the whole world domination side-series thing to be far more interesting than anything to do with the bugs.

 

I've only read the comic adaptations (EG through SotD), but that trailer looks outstanding.

Also, I mean--if that's not General Solo in there, I don't know what is.

 

That's the one, alright. Shadow of the Hegemon, I'm thinking of, specifically.

 

Yeah, Ender's Game made me realize . . . we might actually get General Solo in the ST. Which might actually be enough to get me interested.

 

What's the deal with Peter and PETA?

 

Ah. Well, at least that seems like a legitimate concern, as opposed to their usual "virtual whaling must be stopped" routine.

 

I still feel that creators should be able to portray pretty much anything they want as long as it has a purpose, and not have to deal with meddling from groups like PETA when there are real, non-fictional situations to concern themselves with. But my knowledge of Ender's Game ends at "8 year old super soldier/general".

 

That's pretty much all anyone needs to know.

 

Speaking of knowing, I wonder how they're going to do the fantasy world video game bit. That could be tricky. Or trippy. I would rather the later.

 

That's how I roll. A year from now I will start the third book and think "I will stop where the third season ends and wait a year" ... Yeah, I don't believe that even now.

By the way, for all the talk of nudity in the series, GRRM wins by having a naked Pycelle wet everyone in the room. I'm trying hard to unsee it.

In other news, I am working this month as a gardener in an old graveyard. I actually like the atmosphere. The yard is next to a river, it has old trees, small mounds and cool gravestones a century back with titles. That guy was a teacher. That guy was a cantor, and he was a vicar during the last emperor. It's quite weird that I'm so fascinated by them, you know, because of the dead. But I must do good job, no one has risen to complain yet.