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Full Series Characters in Rebels, Who Will Show Up and Who Do You Want to See?

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by Slowpokeking, May 21, 2013.

  1. Praenomen Cognomen

    Praenomen Cognomen Jedi Master star 4

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    This is more complicated than you're implying; they don't just pass the script around, potentially letting out leaks, for the sake of continuity in the wider areas of the franchise. They don't care enough about continuity for that. Not only will JJ be given the right to change whatever he wants on set, I doubt the script is even finished anyway. It's not like they can call over and say, "Hey, are you using Mara Jade?" because the most likely response is, "I have no idea who that is!" which doesn't definitively mean she's retconned out of existence, but it doesn't mean she's not; what if, say, they mention that Luke was never married, or give his wife a different name? This is just one scenario, but I'm trying to make the point that these people don't have the encyclopedic knowledge that we do, and you can't take that for granted.

    Anyway, the point is moot, because as a rule, T-canon producers just don't elevate specific characters out of C-canon status. Whenever it has happened, it's been incredibly vague (a'la Delta Squad and that one Hutt). The precedent has not been set, so why would anyone believe it was going to happen now? Hope is one thing, but expectation is unfounded.
     
  2. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Does anyone care about Talzin?
     
  3. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I don't mostly because i have always found her creepy
     
  4. Slowpokeking

    Slowpokeking Jedi Master star 5

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    They do, the movie is much more important than anything because of the profit. That's why it's always the highest canon.

    CW was created to connect EP II and EP III. TCW was created to gather audience on screen after the movies. While TCW didn't use many characters directly, it did rely on a lot of C canon stuff, like the planets and factions.
     
  5. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    These guys do:

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  6. Slowpokeking

    Slowpokeking Jedi Master star 5

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    Can they make the pink trooper character base on Amy Jo Johnson's appearance and Kimberly's persona?
     
  7. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    No pink.

    Oh my eyes.
     
  8. Praenomen Cognomen

    Praenomen Cognomen Jedi Master star 4

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    When you say "They do," do you mean they do pass the Episode VII script around? No. They don't. Definitely not right now, and probably not in time to make it actually tie in somehow to Rebels. The new film's canon is not set in stone until the movie's finished being edited, and that is precisely why Rebels won't be touching anything related to sequel-specific material... it's not locked in yet. With the CW microseries, there was the benefit of George overseeing both productions to make them link up, but JJ will have final say on the plot elements of VII, and he definitely won't be overseeing Rebels. There's no direct synergy there. They might both strengthen the franchise in their own ways, but Rebels is not direct promotion for the sequels.

    But it's a side point anyway, so it doesn't matter.
     
  9. Slowpokeking

    Slowpokeking Jedi Master star 5

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    No, but all important characters' creation, appearance and death must be permitted by the head of LF, even C canon EU has to follow this rule.

    It's not like they pass the script around, but important decision of the TV series producers must be told and get permitted by LF and they might give order about let character make appearance.
     
  10. Praenomen Cognomen

    Praenomen Cognomen Jedi Master star 4

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    Well, then there ya go, this is the principle I'm talking about. I'm quite certain they won't be touching Episode VII stuff, unless it's demanded by that project's producers.... but that gives way to another conversation about whether VII will include EU characters, and that's something I just don't see happening. So, whaddayagonnado.
     
  11. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I thought she was awesome until Massacre, and she pissed me off there, so I hope to never see her again.
     
  12. Slash78

    Slash78 Jedi Master star 3

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    Again, that's why Simon Kinberg is working both with the Star Wars Rebels bunch and is a consultant on Episode VII (as well as working on his own spin-off movie). He's the direct link.
     
  13. Slash78

    Slash78 Jedi Master star 3

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    And she's probably got red hair to boot.
     
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  14. Slowpokeking

    Slowpokeking Jedi Master star 5

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    Amy Jo Johnson once said she dislike pink.
     
  15. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I see what you did there.
     
  16. Praenomen Cognomen

    Praenomen Cognomen Jedi Master star 4

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    Not to retread it over and over, but again again, my thought on this is that Kinberg is consulting for his own benefit to get a frame of reference for the spinoff. "Consultant" is kind of a joke title in showbiz, because they're usually pretty generous with writer credits for even the smallest of contributions, and if somebody can't get one, it usually means their involvement is minimal or for some auxiliary purpose.

    But I'm not purposely trying to spin my wheels on this issue; I think the elevation of C-canon characters (not just concepts, groups, or planets) is rare enough that my point has been pretty thoroughly made just based on lack of precedent, and these are just side details which make it even more unlikely.
     
  17. Slash78

    Slash78 Jedi Master star 3

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    Did anyone say Hal Horn yet?

    I wanna see Hal Horn.
     
  18. thank

    thank Jedi Knight star 1

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    all i want is to find out what happened to barriss and what luminara thought
     
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  19. WatTamborWoo

    WatTamborWoo Jedi Master star 3

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    Absolutely. The way Luminara was portrayed was brilliant. She was my favourite Jedi because of that. I also liked the way Bariss went from prim and proper to way-out crazy. What did Luminara think? There are stories to be told there.
     
  20. Darth Valkyrus

    Darth Valkyrus Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Shot at dawn.

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  21. Darth_Hydra

    Darth_Hydra Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Right now my list of who I want to see is:

    Darth Vader
    Ahsoka
    Rex(or any of the clones who're still alive)
    Darth Maul
    Wedge
    Tarkin
    Thrawn
    Jar Jar
    Leia
    Bail Organa
    Ackbar
    Mon Mothma
    Barriss Offee
    Ventress
    Talon Karrde
    Mara Jade
    Darth Sidious/Palpatine/Emperor
    R2D2&C3PO
    Lando
    Jabba
    Cad Bane
     
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  22. Darth_Arapsis

    Darth_Arapsis Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Yeah, Lando could finally get a backstory.
     
  23. mes520

    mes520 Jedi Master star 4

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    Oh, and another thing to add to my list

    I don't know if they've been mentioned but Padme's family the Naberries, especially her niece Pooja who was a member of the Alliance and friend of Leia's.
     
  24. Scimitar13

    Scimitar13 Jedi Youngling

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    I would actually like to see Starkiller show up somehow, though that is probably not too likely. It would be nice to get some resolution with the Darth Maul story line. I am sure the founders of the Rebellion will probably appear and perhaps Leia. I think the series will probably spend more time on new characters though.
     
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  25. SkywalkerSquadron

    SkywalkerSquadron Jedi Knight star 4

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    Characters I want to see:

    Mon Mothma
    Bail Antilles
    Garm Bel Iblis
    Ahsoka, but just for an arc or two
    Bo-Katan
    Galen Marek, also just for a few episodes
    Cad Bane
    Bossk
    Boba Fett
    Asajj Ventress
    Jax Pavan
    Lando Calrissian
    Daala


    That's all I can think of right now.