Speculation What if the "big assumptions" are wrong, and the Empire is still in control?

actually i just read the link & i was about to thank u for the knowledge u imparted,but acting so childish makes me not want to do that.
although i still thank u,today i learned couple of things too.
dont pick fights over such things with ppl...have i killed anyone u love??? whats all the hostility? cool down.

 

I'm not angry. I just felt that it needed to be pointed out that you were attempting to argue with NASA. It seemed relevant.

 

ok then ,thanks again for the knowledge,shake hands?

 

Agreed

 

great! *shaking* nice to've met u btw.

 

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This is what I am expecting.... Something along these lines.... Good post

 

WHAT!?!

 

That's just... Creepy.

 

Just giving the first example that came to mind of how it could work with the Empire still being in control with no rebel alliance

This thread is about challenging the big assumptions we have about the ST

 

My reaction was based on the fact that your idea, although interesting in a way, is way to disconnected from the saga that it couldn't possibly be the type of thing the ST will come to be. IMO at least.

As I said earlier, some of the these big assumptions are the fabric of Star Wars. If they are not there, it wont be Star Wars in a sense. If thats the case, the ST will fail. You can challenge some of them to a degree, but generally speaking, I think certain things will remain intact.

That being said, The Empire having a role in the ST would be an instance of challanging that assumption and having it work. The Empire is a huge part of Star Wars. The OT it provided all the action, and the entire PT addressed its origins. I dont see an ST without The Empire, or least what was once The Empire. Just as the "good guy" Rebublic became the "Bad Guy" Empire by Ep III, we will at least see a retooling of that organization, or the struggles within it, as the political portion of the Star Wars model in the ST. There would be no reason for a Rebele Alliance in this case, but perhaps an "Imperial Purist" faction.

 

I really like what the Empire became in the EU, in fact I think the Empire's evolution is its greatest strength. So I'd love to see the Imperial Remnant in the ST, maybe ally with Republic, and it would be super-cool to see the Fel dynasty and the Imperial Knights (though I really doubt that one, unfortunately).

I'm not predicting the Empire will still be in control in the ST, but it is a small possibility, so I just wanted to highlight and challenge our assumptions with this thread. Get us thinking out of the box.

 

The ROTJ novelization gives an explanation for the Empire dying with Palpatine: The Empire is completely incompetant and its ships don't work without Palpatine's powers.

 

And the ANH novel says Vader killed Luke's father, and that the Emperor was just an ignorant puppet controlled by the special interests.

 

EU aside, for all we know that info did get passed along.

Vader killing Luke's father is also in the ANH movie and Palpatine being a puppet I believe was an attempt to justify his absence from the movie.

 

I think the point is that the novelizations don't always reflect the later state of things... ROTJ's novelization says, clearly, that Owen Lars is OBI-WAN'S brother, not Anakin's stepbrother.

As for Vader killing Luke's father, well...back in '76, that's how the story went. Vader & Luke's father were two separate people, no "certain point of view" required. And also in '76, the Emperor was just a puppet, a politician who made certain alliances in order to secure power, but those allies wound up holding all the power. Guys like Tarkin.

Things changed after the movie became a hit, of course...

 

If we're going to use history then...we should look to the nearest precursor shouldn't we? For all the power the Third Reich held in occupied land they did not control the world. Nor did the Roman Empire but they are probably a better exemplar of what the Empire were - and they were defeated by rebel incurions into their territory. The fall of the Roman Empire did not result in a widespread joint administration...what reason is there to believe that the galaxy would do likewise? Some of the leaders of the rebellion (Mon Mothma, for example) might desire some return to the grand old Republic but others may - as has been pointed out - see that as having been flawed and not be particularly interested.

The most likely scenario would be that various planetary (and sub-planetary) leaders would ensconce their own power (some possibly claiming to have the authority of the Empire) and that a period of 'nations' (systems, planets etc) would come into being as independent structures - in much the same way as we now have out sovereign states.

Is that too complex a situation for Star Wars movies?

 

New Republic politics will definately be interesting. What will each of the Rebel leaders want? What will each of the planets want? Will everyone want a galactic government?

 

So if we see Palp's son will he be called Darth Kidious?

Leia: Aren't you a little short for a sith lord?
Kidious: I'm a person and my name is Kidious!

 

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Yes! I want to see that storyline played out. A very interesting alternative beginning. The early stuff.