ST Official Sequel Trilogy / Legends / Expanded Universe discussion thread

I wouldn't mind that either. Sure the books won't be the "real" timeline but so what, Disney wont come into my house and take all my books. There were some good contributions and some...not so good contributions, I'm good with whatever they decide to do.

 

*ahem* I...uh, oh, never mind. I'm not going to argue with ya about the best SW EU novel ever written (not including Death Troopers). Chewie lovers never can agree about that book, no matter what I say about the quality of Salvatore's writing.

I won't deny that Chewie was an iconic character, but...c'mon, really? What you're basically saying is that the ST won't be successful if Chewie's not in it...? I don't care if they bring him back or not, personally...but I'm absolutely 100% certain that the ST will still be a mega-blockbuster even if Chewie stays dead.

I think it's likely they'll bring him back, anyway. LOL! All I'm saying is, they don't need to just to make the ST successful. Every SW fan in the world who owns an essential/visual guide is aware of Chewie's fate.

 

Goodbye KJA! Goodbye Sith species!

 

I wonder what the authors think about the possibility of the EU being totally thrown out.

 

Same. KJA clearly doesn't mind.

 

The problem with this is that they've already started with some good quality questions that won't be answered and I'd be pissed. Not to mention that I would have all this information in my head that doesn't matter anymore which sucks.

 

*Note: I know absolutely nothing about EU economics and rights things so please correct me if I'm wrong* I would really hate it if the usage of the EU lead to some insane legal battles where Eu writers are claiming that "The characters and events shown in this movie were directly from this book I wrote *and those characters were creations of mine and NOT from Lucas* but George used them and is getting full character and story credit when in fact they were my creations SO I should get paid and be given story/character credit for the usage of those characters/events". That would not be fun for both Lucasfilm and fans because I can totally see it dividing them. Some fans claiming the writer should get credit while others saying that the characters are property of Lucas and he doesn't owe that dude anything. Please tell me if they use EU we can avoid that HIGHLY unlikely but still annoying incident.

I also would not enjoy the inevitable "Ugh Lucas was soo lazy that he cant make any original ideas anymore so he's just copying Star Wars FANFIC now and claiming its an "entirely original story" when its not even his own ideas! How lazy and unoriginal" Lucas-bashing we will get.

 

I think the writers know that they don't own the characters they create. Its like DC writers. They can create new villains but guess what, if they leave the comic book, say "Detective Comics" that villain is DC's.

 

Yeah, the writers don't own the OCs in the EU.

 

WHEW well thats a relief. Now I just hope we dont have tons of fans *and maybe some bitter writers* pointing out all the differences from EU vs movie or even WORSE...if the movie sucks it makes the EU look worse *kinda like how people go "Well the source material sucked so it makes sense the movie failed" thus making it harder to defend the EU because if an oscar-winning writer couldn't make it work then well....maybe it shouldn't have been used.

 

I'd love it if people finally see the EU for the horror that it is. I'm sick of the idea (this isn't just for Star Wars) that everything must occur in the same continuity and be canon.

 

That particular point would be why Star Wars' EU has lasted oh, nearly forty years. Feel free to point out another movie-based expanded universe that did.

 

One thing I wonder would be "Which is worse: Seeing your EU characters brought to screen but not done well, or have there be new original characters in the ST that end up being more loved than the EU ones". Each would be painful in a sense (well to EU fans). One for not having the EU brought to life the way you want, while the other being seeing people enjoy the new "Ot3 children" instead of the "First OT3 children" thus making the EU children look worse by comparison. Which do you think would hurt more?
EDIT: Both options have their benefits though. EU to screen means they are canon and well...on the big screen but the second one means they are safe from being harmed and thus dont have the risk of being ruined. HMmm...which is better

 

I think it would probably be split down the middle, judging from discussions of Man of Steel on the CBR forums. But I find Star Wars fans are a bit calmer than comic book people (just by these forums). But anyways, man, that stuff is intense with some of the older fans and what happened in the movie over at CBR.

 

In all seriousness, that's the sort of thing that's made me call him underrated in the past. He may not be a good writer in the technical sense, but given the nature of shared universe writing and the EU's historical trouble with lack of cohesion, we could have used a lot more people with his apparent lack of ego/possessiveness when it comes to his works.

 

1. What's CBR?
2. Considering what I've seen from Star Wars fans, I can't imagine how vengeful comic book fans must be.

 

Comic Book Resources and they have forums there and it gets pretty intense.

I think as long as they have interesting characters thats all that matters. If they get me to care for them like Michael Arndt did in Toy Story 3 I will have no problems.

 

But, really, philosophically speaking, does an encyclopedic knowledge of ANY fictional universe really matter all that much?

 

Another little EU question: Assuming the EU is not used, do you think we will still see the EU post-ROTJ characters in future EU stuff? A part of me sees Lucasfilm/Disney demanding all the future EU comics/books/ect star characters from the new movies in an attempt to avoid confusion from new fans (like "I thought Han's son was this guy...who the heck is Jacen? He wasn't in the movie?"). You know basicly creating a new EU. Do you think thats possible or do you think they will continue to use the same EU characters *like continue to have novels acting like Jaina is Han's daughter while the movie says otherwise* just to please the old EU fans.

 

I don't think you'll get an answer, Claire. It's been asked a few times in this thread, but the conversation always gets rerouted back into 'how to shoehorn as much of the EU as possible into the ST' - and after reading the spoilers for Crucible (I swear, every time I think 'Oh! It can't get any worse...' *blurge*) I'm leaning more towards the 'Just AU the lot...'

 

Anti-EU logic: Post-ROTJ EU is bad, so we should nuke it all.

Noticing that all over this thread.

 

I noticed that. My prediction is that if EU is not used then there is a pretty good chance we wont be seeing Jaina/Jacen/whatever other MAJOR EU characters in any novels/comics that aren't stated as being AU or a "what if" comic. I can totally see Lucasfilm shifting all EU focus to being on the new characters so in a way....the new Sequel trilogy characters will become EU characters because they will have novels and comics made about them.

 

There was a lot of discussion about possible cutoff points as well. But that heavily depends on if Jaina and Jacen are in.