ST Midi-chlorians in Episode VII

I think they should not mention the midi-chlorians, if only to avoid getting a lot of people angry like with the introduction of them in the PT; I think they are aware of how many dislikes the concept.

 

Research is part of your profession, too? Captain Tom Coughlin Apparently, not mine.

Captain Tom, I agree with you that Lucas has had to create and re-create his art, but that's what artists do. Especially if we would like to see the 'Further Adventures of Luke Skywalker'. I also complain about the man. I have plenty of criticism to share about the PT (even ROTJ). Out of respect for my hero, I will refrain. Your're welcome. But I like the MC's, find them consistent and possibly part of a broader Saga. I can't wait to see the ST.

BTW: I follow You. You express great ideas well. That's a nice compliment.

 

I remember learning that mitochondrial ATP is necessary for cell division.

 

YOU ARE A RESEARCHER, TOO! You guys are so darn pedantic!

 

But I might actually care about Solo if he had been a lizard!

 

Immortiss
Yes, I am a chemist and I don't like my beloved science being mixed with esoterics.

ATP is necessary for - well, pretty much anything. When Mitochondria are killed by poison you die. Quickly. Very quickly.

 

Oh, that was only half the point, and not even the most relevant. The part of that thread you are going to want to focus on starts somewhere around page four, when we see some of Lucas's disingenuousness at work.

The man went back changing quotes to make the history behind these ideas more consistent with how things ended up. In essence, he changed history.

 

Sure, but the man has no credibility when discussing his own work. When you do things like that, and it was no surprise to me that he did, your word loses it's value.

Lucas has always been a walking contradicton, so pointing to this or that quote is essentially meaningless. The only thing that he says that counts with me, is what he said through his films. What actually found it's way into the films is the only thing that matters.m

 

Then the reliability of said quotes is fair game. Did he really have midiclorians in mind when Empire was being made? Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. That was a collaboration, and it's more spiritual message did not come entirely from him alone. The midiclorians may have been in his mind, they may not have. The movie suggests that they were not.

Some of his early thoughts on midiclorians were that certain aliens had a better connection to the force than humans because their minds were wired differently, that doesn't seem consistent with a virgin birth human space messiah with a million force hitpoints in his blood.

 

A Chorus of Disapproval

 

In the end...take what you will. If it's maligned for you, that's too bad. What else can I say?

 

I can say nice things about them. They happen to be in one of my favorite scenes in the prequels. Palpatine relating his story about Darth Plagueis, that's a great scene. It works to somewhat redeem the idea. I still think it's a mess in the saga as a whole, but it does redeem the idea somewhat.

 

A Dark Side infection!

 

Good Man!

 

How so? Symbiosis is good for both parties, but a parasite is bad for the host.

 

If you'd had everything you'd ever said publicly about a given subject recorded for posterity over a 35 year period, you'd appear to be "inconsistent" too; would you also be "disingenuous"? Disingenuous: Not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does. I'd say GL knows more about SW than anyone else; and as God of the GFFA he can change any part of it he wants to whenever he wants to. Tolstoy spent years upon years altering War & Peace until it ended up almost being the opposite of what it was originally intended to be; it's called "creativity" and "creative license".

Anyway, I doubt JJA or MA want to get into hot water upsetting the Fanboys and Fangals, we don't want any Cosplay Riots come 2015. Seeing how maturely the SW Fans(tm) handled this slight alteration to the concept of the Force in 1999, our new, infinitely more conservative Entertainment Overlords will probably steer clear of anything even remotely revolutionary.

Peace Out!

 

Sarge

Because both parasitism and symbiosis evolve from population dynamics and all kinds of complex factors that make up a certain environment. Not from "choice" by anyone. Animals are not sentient. And they don't follow human ethics. Neither do plants.

Parasitism is important because it is just another form of predation and without predation certain species could destroy the equilibrium of an environment (rabbits in Australia).

If Lucas thinks "symbiosis" is inherently good he fails at biology.

 

Read the thread that I posted. I didn't use the word disingenuous for the hell of it. What do you call actions like that? That's a deceptive action that he took. Do you deny that?

 

I sure do! He's still in the act of creating this universe and story. It'll keep changing until he's dead; and after that, since others will continue to make up SW stories, it will continue changing. All that was recorded was his idea at given times. They weren't commandments written in stone. As the creator of SW he can change it in any way he sees fit. He's as "disingenuous" as any other artist who continued to work on their art over long periods of time.

 

Then you are in favor of actively lying to people. That's what he did. Your post is absurd. That isn't like other artists, that is purposeful deceit.

I don't think you understand what it is that you are defending.

 

It's called a "metaphor". You'll find them a lot in drama and fiction. I mean, does the notion of the Force also give him a failure in biology? Does sound in space fail him in physics? Why choose to take only one aspect of SW to take completely literally?