ST Star Wars Episode 7 Plot Ideas

This is very true. The Sith go through a very rigorous training. It's like bitch training. I tend to think it would be difficult to be a hardcore Sith without the training confined to a Master and Apprentice relationship. The way it's depicted in 'Darth Plagueis' is very intense.

That being said, all Masters like checks and balances in their relationships, never allowing potential enemies to feel comfortable. I like Tarkin in hindsight, one trusted by the Emperor, and 'holding Vader's leash'. Not Force-Sensitive, but competent and trusted. Vicious. I've recently wondered, considering Darth Vader's vacillation in ROTJ, if he didn't unconsciously set Tarkin up. Vader didn't necessarily like Tarkin or the Death Star. You get the sense they put him on the 'outs' with the Emperor. I keep thinking, when Tarkin says, 'This had better work' and 'I'm taking an awful risk' that Vader could, in part, foresee the outcome and says, "This will be a day long remembered. It has seen the end of Kenobi and it will seen the end of the Rebellion". Well, he was 50/50.

Except Vader survived. Tarkin didn't.

 

[/quote]Well, I've had the idea for some kind of leader that would be opposed to the Jedi since before the casting call was released but that character description did motivate me to develop him a bit more. In the backstory I've created for the character he was a rebel who was captured early in the war and was a prisoner of war for the remainder of the conflict. So he suffered first hand under the rule of a Force user and it has warped his view on them all. This is why I wouldn't have him be a secret Force user because the very essence of his character is the complete opposite of that. He's terrified of another Force user or users hiding themselves in the government and that's the reason why he's such a zealot.[/quote]

I'm opposed to back story for characters in general (long live David Mamet), but SW does have quite a lot of that and your character's back story would be simple and easy to convey, in that he's the Ex-Prisoner of War suffering from PTS, which we haven't really seen in SW.

 

I think that there should be an animated television series in between Return of the Jedi and Episode 7 to fill in the gaps and be back stories on new characters. There's going to be 2 shows in between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope. One if live action in the 19 year timeline and Rebels is animated starting out 5 years before the events of a New Hope. There could be one hour television cartoon shows in between Return of the Jedi and Episode 7. It would cost more I think for live action than animated in between Episodes 6 and 7. Many of us want Darth Plaguies to be the main villain of the sequel trilogy as he comes back to life and could be killed in Episode 9.

 

There will be for sure something released that spans the time between ep6 and 7.

 

[/quote]Theoretically this sort of thing can happen among the Jedi themselves. Yet the Jedi have no Rule of Two. I think you're talking about Dark Jedi. I think it'd be cool in th ST if a small group of Sith, led by an idealistic Dark Sider (maybe an anti-hero (another anti-hero?!)) decided to throw caution to the wind and dispose of the Rule of Two all together. A more cynical Palpatine-type of master mind (maybe a female Palpatine!), who might not even be an official Sith to begin with, would be observing and studying this developing train wreck from afar and ultimately emerge from the shadows as a full-blown Sith to impose the Rule of Two once more. This is the kind of process I would have liked to have seen in Palpatine/Sidious during the PT. >=)[/quote]

D'oh. This is basically Plagueis's story, apparently.

 

Great theories and ideas up in here.

 

People talk a lot about having an Imperial remnant or leftover Empire fragments. The issue I have is, what is actually left of the Empire without Vader or Palpatine?

You have a bunch of brainwashed zombies in armor who were pretty much remote controlled by the Emperor.

You have a bunch of stuffy white guys known as Imperial officers who were no more threatening than somebody's uncle Frank.

What threat or evil do these entities pose?

 

So you're saying we know who every member of the Empire is. How do we know that?

 

Well LFL has introduced the new Villain for Star Wars Rebels as "the Inquisitor" a guy tasked by Vader to hunt down the remaining Jedi. Its easy to see who ever takes over the remnants of the empire to approach this guy, who obviously survived the outcome of Episode VI and ask him to hunt down Luke and the new Jedi. The Character is being created by Simon Kinberg who is also consulting on Episode VII. Coincidence? I think not. The future of the Star Wars might start with "The Inquisitor " from Star Wars Rebels. Its all falling into place you just have to connect the dots or in this case the pixels.

 

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The the purpose that the character serves in "Rebels" is pretty cool.

 

We'll see. He certainly evokes a combination of Vader and Maul. Interesting to see animated Stormtroopers who we now know are human volunteers and not clones. I really like that we have a definitive answer on that.

 

There is a rumor that David Oyelowo is going to be in both Rebels and the ST.

If his character is one of the good guys maybe we'll see the Falcon get taken out along with 1-2-3 of Han, Leia, Luke, and the younger heroes end up on the Ghost with Oyelowo's character providing guidance.

 

Theoretically this sort of thing can happen among the Jedi themselves. Yet the Jedi have no Rule of Two. I think you're talking about Dark Jedi. I think it'd be cool in th ST if a small group of Sith, led by an idealistic Dark Sider (maybe an anti-hero (another anti-hero?!)) decided to throw caution to the wind and dispose of the Rule of Two all together. A more cynical Palpatine-type of master mind (maybe a female Palpatine!), who might not even be an official Sith to begin with, would be observing and studying this developing train wreck from afar and ultimately emerge from the shadows as a full-blown Sith to impose the Rule of Two once more. This is the kind of process I would have liked to have seen in Palpatine/Sidious during the PT. >=)[/quote]

D'oh. This is basically Plagueis's story, apparently.[/quote]
Actually it's Jar Jar's story

 

Earlier today I posted a rough portrait of who I see as the hero of Episode 7. Here's some context:

Between the events of ROTJ and Episode 7, Luke secretly has a child with Mara Jade. He did it out of love, whereas she was more interested in producing a god. Surprise, surprise, they end up producing a baby girl (or boy) who cannot wield the Force at all. Disgusted, Mara disowns the child and Luke goes off to Tattoine to live in disgrace. The powerful and influential Solos adopt the child, who, along with the audience, doesn't know her/his true heritage until the end of Episode VII. The Solos plan to marry off the adopted child--now a princess or a prince, to an old world, aristocratic family (yep) that happens to be the main political rival of both the Solos and The New Republic. The child has different plans...

That OP was a bit broader than I originally gleaned, as I've been running this stuff on my iPhone in between stops all day. (As I'm doing now) I think I should provide a little more context to the hero's journey here in terms of plot, which isn't necessarily appropriate to that thread:

In that all of the carnal business that transpires between Mara Jade and Luke Skywalker is meant to take place between the events of ROTJ and Episode 7 (Clear, right?), I wasn't trying to make it about The Big 3, as my speculative story would not begin with any of them as protags at the start of Episode 7. But the hero's relation to these characters obviously provides context for her/his character.

So yeah. In my speculative journey for the hero here, then, my Forceless princess (or prince) is the high-profile target for assassins the masters of whom feel threatened by her/his political importance as her role is to essentially unite the New Republic through marriage (an archaic practice, no doubt). (The ideological Solos represent technological progress while the rival family represents religious fundamentalism.) Guided by an unlikely mentor (hint: he glows (thanks Immortiss)), the princess/prince then embarks a daring and perilous journey as she outraces some kind of baddass assassin (no, not Darth Maul) in search of... the legendary Luke Skywalker. As all of this transpires, several other issues are at play:

Mara Jade is losing control over of the Jedi council (over which she assumes leadership once Luke busts an Obi-wan and heads out to the desert) as a Jedi Jihad is growing under the banner of a young Force-user (gender would depend on the hero's gender) who is rumored to be the off-spring of Luke Skywalker (another Fallen Jedi. I know. An unavoidable device in my estimation. At least for now.). And, yes, the Sith lurks in the shadows. Work still in progress...

NOTE: If it's obvious that I'm cannibalizing, er, rhyming, elements from both TPM and ANH it's because I am. The ST ought to bridge the gap between those trilogies while setting-up the table for something completely new, IMHO.

 

... Luke's whereabouts here should also probably be more mysterious than good 'ole Tatooine... Somewhere more perilous, mysterious or remote... (Man... I really should be working on my own scripts ... )...

 

I want to see one of the Skywalker kids go postal and Luke have to make the choice to either spare his/her life or kill them.

 

An evil clone of Obi Wan becomes Emperor, builds an army of Death Stars and cyborg Super Battle Droid / Storm Troopers and blows up Coruscant. His apprentice is Darth Angrilor, a fallen Jedi taught by Luke Skywalker. Luke's new planet, Andortooine, is besieged by the enemy. Ahsoka returns leading an army of old Clone Troopers. Then young Ani wakes up in his bedroom on Tatooine and it turns out that the whole Saga was a dream. He's not even a slave, he's just an ordinary kid. Then Old Luke wakes up and it was all a dream within a dream, he never turned Vader, he's been kept in a Virtual Reality Prison by the Emperor for 30 years. Then he wakes up again and it was all a dream within a dream within a dream and it's the eve of battle between the New Republic and the New Emperor and it is revealed that the Obi Wan clone isn't a clone it's Luke's lost son who underwent cosmetic surgery and returned for vengeance. At the last minute Admiral Ackbar reveals that he's been working on a super weapon that only kills evil people and he kept it secret for fear it would fall into the wrong hands. Anyway they let the thing go off !!!!!BOOOOOM!!!!! and it all ends with a huge Gungan parade and Ewok picnic.

 

Reminds me of a theory I read somewhere that the PT would reveal Obi-Wan to be a light-side clone of Palpatine.

 

Exactly.

 

My current (ever-changing) discombobulated version of Episode VII:

After [Planet X] is accepted into the [New Republic], the planet’s General and his small army are denied acceptance into the galactic military for their limited force abilities (for historical reasons). Only wanting to protect their own planet, the ex-military protest the [New Republic]. The protests lead to destruction of the [New Republic's] property, each incident becoming increasingly threatening.

On her way to negotiate with the resistance group, President Leia Organa-Solo is exposed by an influential religious leader as the daughter of Darth Vader. Leia and her son are arrested, but they use the force to escape and meet up with Han and Chewbacca. During her arrest, the ‘Religious Leader’ tells Leia that Luke has been detained on a [Prison Planet] for years.

Using his wits and what's left of military status, Han Solo, the former leader of the Galactic military uncovers the coordinates of Luke’s location. Leia, Han and the fugitive group find Luke and attempt to rescue him and his two adopted kids. Han and one of Luke’s kids are killed in the process, the rest escape.

Luke and Leia figure out it was the same “Religious Leader” who had them both arrested and work to discover how he knows so much about them. Luke is contacted through the force with a voice from the dark side who threatens the destruction of the remaining Jedi, once and for all.

The out of session Senate buildings are destroyed on Coruscant.

 

Liking the General and the overall frame story, how a new uprising is in the works and the themes, in particular the role that religion wil play in all of this... Also, I like how you use Leia's heritage as a plot point. Yes, I agree that we shouldn't take it for granted that anyone other than the elder Solo-Skywalkers will know about their link to Vader...

 

I've always liked the idea of a modern Earth like society devoid of hope with no prior knowledge of The Force tapping into it. Like an isolated civilization from the rest of the galaxy, or a civiliization in a post apocalyptic/reconstruction society.

Have somebody find a fossilized lightsaber and activate it at one point.

 

Episode VII

The Empire has been defeated & a New Republic has been formed. However the scars of the Empire & the decades of war remain. There has been a backlash against the notion of the Force from within the political sphere & the wider population. The rise of Palpatine, Vader & even going back to the Clone Wars & Dooku are all portrayed as a result of the infighting & corruptibility of Force users, namely the Jedi & the Sith. The claim is they are too powerful & even Jedi were shown to be seduced by this power. After Palpatine the New Republic leaders are paranoid about a powerful Force user ever holding a position of influence again. Despite the objections of a minority including Leia, it is decided not to reinstate the Jedi Order as protectors. Due to these fears it is hoped by many that the Force will fade out of all knowledge & existence.

Despite these developments, Luke was determined to carry out Yoda's charge of passing on his knowledge of the Force. However he could not do so within the Republic. Though greatly saddened by this "new world" he decides to respect the law & leaves the boundaries of the Republic. He establishes a base at a far off remote location. He takes on an apprentice, maybe a few.

Cutting to the chase, when an old Imperial bad guy shows up with the former Imperial fleet (& a Sith or some nasty old Jedi) the New Republic is quickly overwhelmed. They soon realise that aided by the Dark Side this isn't an enemy they can hope to defeat via conventional means. Eventually the Republic appeals to Luke & co to save the day. An emissary is sent to him asking for help, maybe Han with Chewie. Of course some of the "next generation" will be also be key players in the fight. To up the personal motivation for Luke I'd have the bad guys either capture or kill Leia. That ought to fire him up. Another thought, perhaps the bad guys publicly discredit Luke by revealing he is the son of Vader.