Full Series Official "The Clone Wars" Series Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

I agree that they should have devoted more time to other Council Masters like Saesee Tiin, who was known to be an excellent pilot, but only really showed up piloting his starfighter during the Battle of Lola Sayu, as I recall. It certainly couldn't hurt to spend a little more time fleshing out characters like Tiin and give them more personalities so that they wouldn't appear so much like Jedi redshirts simply there to be slaughtered by Sidious in the RotS duel.

OTOH, I thought the Umbara arc was one of TCW's best arcs in terms of technical presentation (excellent scenery and a great space battle, like Sable_Hart said) and narrative. It was one of those arcs that really developed the personalities of the clones, such as Captain Rex, and made them appear more distinctive, with personalities and even the ability to question the intentions of their commanders, rather than the fleshy automatons pretty much programmed to follow orders that appeared in the prequels. Carnage of Krell provided nice foreshadowing to Order 66, and for the entirety of the arc Rex was developed very well, but the ambiguity in his actions at the end leaves his ultimate fate open to interpretation; after seeing Jedi like Krell go bad, is he going to remain at Skywalker's side after Order 66 goes down, becoming part of Vader's Fist? Or have his experiences given him enough doubt that he would defect, and/or refuse to kill Jedi? Furthermore, I thought Umbara was one of the best arcs to show the harsh realities of war, since the forces on both sides were largely organic, so we saw firsthand the loss of life on both sides and the toll the war has taken. Especially the scene where the clones end up fighting each other thanks to Krell's betrayal.

R.I.P. Waxer

 

Well that is something we can agree on, but some people seem to think all of THIS would be possible without him, and that I cannot agree on. Sorry if I misconstrued your comments as being of that ilk. May the Force be with you my friend.

 

Just finished the Kadavo arc, which is another great one.

 

I don't remember exactly how long it took me to make this:



But when I decide my free time is best spent making a GIF to how much I hate WAC (and Gascon and this arc altogether), you know my feelings towards TCW took a major turn for the worse in S5.

 

I just wished that after all of D-squad's "heroics," that Anakin would pull a Lloyd Christmas on Gascon and WAC.



Would have redeemed everything for me.

 

I dunno AF, there's not a whole lot I wouldn't watch if the money was right.

 

Figured I'd knock out the rest of that particular disc by watching "Friend in Need" and I remember now why I forgot it. It's not a good episode at all; Vizsla clearly went off the deep end. Must EVERY TCW villain twirl his mustache?

 

Yeah the role of Satine always seemed kind of forced to me. I'm definitely not one of those who got bent out of shape by the way the Mandalorians were portrayed in TCW, as I never read any of the EU material that dealt with Mandalore, but her character just seemed out of place somehow. Obi-Wan's relationship with her was confusing as well, since I never imagined him ever having doubts about his role within the Jedi Order.

 

Didn't mind Satine being a hopelessly naive idealist. When I singlehandedly conquer Disney and rewrite TCW, my revamped Mauldalore arc will address the wonderful hypocrisy of her actions and policies.

That's part of the reason I love the prequels so much. The good guys are so deliciously flawed.

 

The fact Obi-Wan did have a previous relationship with Satine that made him consider leaving the Order did make her death in "The Lawless" much more significant. I felt that served to delineate Obi's character from Anakin's when it came to personal attachment. Even though I expected Obi's reaction to her death, to see him just "move on" was still somewhat unsettling, knowing how strongly he felt about her. Call me a softy.

 

I don't like the "I would've left the Order for you" line either. That's just not Obi-Wan IMO. Some hesitation is fine, but I don't see him going to that extent.

 

I think you're mixing up the Umbara arc with the Zygerrian arc because he said that line before killing the warden with an electrostaff in 'Escape From Kadavo'. I don't recall he ever said that in the Umbara arc.

 

Agreed.

 

Rewatched "The Lawless" and nearly wept openly over the fight scene in Blu-ray. Truly no one can match the effortless majesty of His Imperial Majesty.

 

Yeah seeing Sidious "in the flesh" was definitely a treat. I really did respect DF's decision to keep his appearances limited, much like was done in the films.

 

I love the Star Trek vibe of Trespass, it's probably the main reason I love the episode so much.

 

What actually was the cause of the vibe? I just never noticed it...

 

The part that really gets me in "The Lawless" is Savage's demise. Its just so sad. Still doesn't fully top Waxer for me though, whose death depressed me for a short time.

I've been rewatching episodes as they air on Toonami. So far not a one has been skipped. Defenders of Peace aired Saturday night.