Full Series Official Star Wars Rebels Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Onderon method works because ur fighting on your home turf. Like honestly you have no place to go and every time the occupiers kill someone else there is another there to take their place u can basically grind out a win through attrition. Vietnam and Afghanistan (A Dozen or so times) being textbook examples of this. That however is not going to topple a Galactic Empire.

 

Is Ashoka the new Ahmad Shah Massoud perhaps

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_Shah_Massoud

 

Maybe if the Empire invades Shili.

 

There were no Star Destroyers in Vietnam and Afghanistan that could do a Base Delta Zero.

 

But we had nukes and actually considered using them on Vietnam. Would have accomplished the same thing, basically.

BDZ'ing an entire planet will only cause more sympathy for the Rebellion, as it did with Alderaan. Mass destruction is just poor strategy, it's really the lowest form of strategic warfare, the least subtle, the least cunning.

"The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers."

 

Alright peeps, it's been a few months so I'm checking in to see if anyone can summarise what we know (if anything) about Midnight Cowboy's latest Ahsoka spin-off series/pet project.

 

What Ahsoka spinoff series?

 

Point in case: I don't think anything in the movies "retconned" Hermione, because in the HP canon order the novels are the higher canon.

 

If so, let us hope she sits down for an unfortunate interview of her own.

Okay, okay, I admit that was in rather poor taste (if only because I shouldn't joke about a real person meeting with the kind of fate which befell Massoud), but geesh, what a polarizing figure Tano's become, huh?

A shame, really, because if she had been handled well, she could've been somebody. She could have been a contender. Now, unfortunately, I cannot shake the image of her as nothing more than a personal wish-fulfillment project of little real substance, and that stinks. I'd go as far as to submit that she not be used again in the GFFA until someone other than Filoni is calling the shots for her character. It'll never happen that way (there's no way Tano won't show up in Rebels), but I think if there's any chance at all for her to shake her well-deserved rep as a pet, it's likely that somebody other than the guy most responsible for putting her in that position will be needed to call the shots.

 

What if she was given to the likes of Zahn or Stackpole?

 

Zahn?

lmao.

Ahsoka has nothing on the likes of Thrawn and Mara Jade. I really don't understand all the whining.

 

I didn't know Ahsoka was part of the government in the Galactic Federation of Free Alliances? Did she defeat the Yuuzhan Vong all by herself?

 

New poll

Which writer makes there OC the most important, powerful person ever

A) Zahn with Mara
B) Filoni with Ahsoka

 

Filoni has no problem with making Ahsoka the dumbest person in the galaxy on the flipside, apparently.

 

Darn you Lucas for creating Ahsoka

 

So Ahsoka is the lesser of two (or three) evils, then?

I hear what you're saying, but to be fair, the fact that Tano may not reach the level of a Mara Jade or Thrawn doesn't mean that Ahsoka's been handled particularly well, either. For a good number of folks, it's plain to see that she's been reduced to little more than a pet by Filoni since at least the third season of TCW. The man freely admits his own attachment issues with the character, after all; it's not as if people are simply conjuring false criticisms out of thin air.

 

Nah, to me, anyway, she's always been a character with potential. Nothing wrong with creating her, at all. And I actually like her on the whole. Just, you know, darn that which she's been reduced to. But hey, everyone is different. For some she's the best thing since sliced bread, and there's nothing wrong with that.

My only real issue is that I feel the folks in charge of shaping SW characters and stories have a responsibility beyond their own attachment to any one character. And as Darth Pevra points out, it's not as though it's exclusive to Filoni or Tano, either. Plenty of writers have had to deal with similar feelings. A good writer will know when to put the greater good ahead of their own feelings. To his credit, Filoni recently stated in an interview that he acknowledges his attachment to Tano, but that he would have no issue with, for example, killing off Ahsoka if that is what the story dictated. On this, I have my doubts, but I'd be perfectly willing to admit that I'm wrong.

 

Meh, Ahsoka was portrayed as pretty dumb at times, like when she associated with Ventress in Wrong Jedi or couldn't push an elevator button. Or when a couple of inept younglings had to help her out. The fact that Filoni knows of his favouritism means he can counteract it (and did so imo), something Zahn would never do.

She also has notable character flaws that often hurt her. She doesn't think things through. She's overly judgemental sometimes. For Ahsoka, everything is black or white. She doesn't understand anything in-between.

Now people are probably gonna tell me "but she hold her own against Grievous!" Well, TCW Grievous is the most pathetic villain I can think of. Fighting him to a standstill isn't really that impressive.

 

Though I haven't read it yet, some folks here (who's opinions I value) have stated a real appreciation for Karen Traviss' Ahsoka in the TCW movie adaptation. But given Karen's current (non) relationship with Lucasfilm, that's probably not very likely. Still, I'd love to see Imperial Commando 2 become a reality, and if handled the right way, it might not be a horrible idea to work Tano into that storyline.

I'll say this, I absolutely loved what Matthew Stover did with both Obi-Wan Kenobi, and the relationship between Palpatine and Anakin, in the ROTS novel. I've already cast my vote for Matthew to get the Episode VII gig, and given the opportunity, I think there's every chance he could do wonders with Ahsoka, too.

Probably, yeah.