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Census Are you afraid of death?

Discussion in 'Community' started by Condition2SQ, Sep 28, 2012.

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Are you afraid of death?

  1. Yes

    32 vote(s)
    30.8%
  2. No

    72 vote(s)
    69.2%
  1. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    There's not much to death. But it's just common sense to be anxious about dying. Most people can look forward to dying alone, or in pain, or both.
     
  2. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 10

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    I still don't really get what people mean when they say "Dying alone." Are we pining for the days when kings used to have their wives slain to accompany them into the afterlife, or. . .?
     
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  3. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    "having friends and family around you at or near the moment of death." My good friend who died of pancreatic cancer did indeed die a magnificent kingly death with his wife and all his children and grandchildren gathered around him, sitting next to him on his bed, talking to him and touching him and urging him on. It's a great way to go, but not everyone gets that.

    The result of living a long life is that particularly if you're a woman you'll likely outlive your spouse if you had one. Eventually you may be packed off to a nursing home where you can die quietly, out of sight.
     
  4. Sandtrooper92

    Sandtrooper92 Jedi Knight star 2

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    Like I said, naive blather..

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  5. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    stupid comment. I'm old enough that I've seen one generation of my family die off entirely and am in the process of going through the deaths of everyone from my parents' generation. My father-in-law is the last surviving member of his generation of family, and if you don't think the experience of many seniors at the end of life is to a large extent loneliness and pain, then you don't know much.
     
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  6. Sandtrooper92

    Sandtrooper92 Jedi Knight star 2

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    You just said there isn't much to death. You put your ignorance on display and you didn't learn much from your experience. And your lack of emotion and empathy is either trolling or is concerning.

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  7. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Your comment is both judgmental and foolish. Death is a non event. Dying is hard. I was drawing a distinction between being dead and the process of dying.
     
  8. squir1y

    squir1y Jedi Master star 3

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    "Nobody minds being dead. Being dead is great. It's getting dead that sucks." - George Carlin
     
  9. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    A few weeks ago I listened to a story on NPR about children and cancer:

    I weep easily, as it is, but this really put me over the edge.
     
  10. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager / Finally Won A Draft star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Yeah, it got dusty in here quickly.
     
  11. Zapdos

    Zapdos Force Ghost star 5

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    dude, we get it. you're not a big fan of people dying. i'm pretty sure nobody here is. but unfortunately you can't tell people what they should feel and how to deal with it.
     
  12. 07jonesj

    07jonesj Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'm more afraid of being old and unable to do things than of death. I hold the opinion that I'll probably commit suicide at some point in my old age if given the opportunity. I'd rather face my death than it be forced upon me.
     
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  13. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    One thing I think that can really ease our fear of death as we age is dementia.
     
  14. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Shelf of Shame Host star 9 VIP - Game Host

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    Yeah but that would be painful for friends and loved ones who are witnessing it.
     
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  15. JediTerminator

    JediTerminator Jedi Master star 5

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    It would be harder for me to see a person die next to me than to face my own death.
     
  16. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 10

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    Other Jaba: I guess I feel like you are talking about two separate things. Loneliness and social isolation is indeed a huge problem among the elderly. But it's a problem among all of them, the hale and sickly alike. I don't see the special concern with "dying" alone, in light of that.
     
  17. DarthTunick

    DarthTunick SFTC VII + Deadpool BOFF star 10 VIP - Game Host

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  18. JediTerminator

    JediTerminator Jedi Master star 5

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    Do you know why music at funerals is so depressing? The corpse is decomposing. :p
     
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  19. Saintheart

    Saintheart Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Dec 16, 2000
    Actually I am afraid of death because...I don't wanna go!

    [​IMG]
     
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  20. PiettsHat

    PiettsHat Force Ghost star 4

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    Mark Twain said it best, I believe:

    “I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.”

    I fear the process of dying or being alone far more than I do being dead.
     
  21. Bib Fartuna

    Bib Fartuna Jedi Knight star 4

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    Nov 4, 2012
    I believe in Solipsism.

    Row row, row your boat, life is but a dream.
     
  22. Bib Fartuna

    Bib Fartuna Jedi Knight star 4

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    Of course we are. Haven't you read the latest clauses in Obamacare??? :eek:
     
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  23. epic

    epic Ex Mod star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Jul 4, 1999
    this quote only applies once someone is actually dead. obviously no one will care then. but there is certainly a difference in the concept of death prior to and after having lived.
     
  24. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'd agree that dying lonely and in social isolation is a subset of loneliness and social isolation. But that doesn't change the fact that the process of dying is a major life event in which it's probably better not to be socially isolated, but nevertheless the consequences of longevity, and also in the U.S. in particular geographic mobility and the elderly living far away from their children make social isolation at the time of death a special problem, one which many of us are going to experience at the end.

    When I was a child my neighbor friend's grandfather, a widowed word war 1 vet, lived in the house with my friend's family. He sat in a Lazy Boy every day and read the newspaper and spit chewing tobacco into a can on the floor next to his chair. He died in the chair, watching the evening news with his son and daughter in law. This is what I'd call an acceptable death. Minus the chewing tobacco.
     
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  25. Harpua

    Harpua Chosen One star 9

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    That's kind of on its way out now, though. Once the elderly generation dies off, they'll be replaced by more computer savvy elderly people. By the time we reach that age, I don't think social isolation will exist anymore.

    I know what you're saying, though.... people don't die at home anymore. We've done so much to ensure that death gets prolonged that we've removed all the humanity from it. Now people die in sterile rooms surrounded by machinery instead of loved ones.