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JCC The JCC Fascism Thread

Discussion in 'Community' started by Lord Vivec, Jan 25, 2014.

  1. Rogue_Ten

    Rogue_Ten Chosen One star 7

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    i say "ree-kard vahg-ner" too ;)

    i think ultimately i like wagner bashing more than i like wagner. neitzsche contra wagner, this comic...

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    he's just such an easy target for ridicule because nothing is more needlessly and unrelentingly Serious than Wagner. he's the Senate of composers
     
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  2. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    I got to see Placido Domingo perform in Die Walkur once, mere feet in front of me. That was pretty awesome.

    That may be the kindest thing you've ever said to me.


    Ideals and Symbols as shorthand organizing principles, then? Things to rally behind and sublimate subservience to the state and/or leader?
     
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  3. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It uses Tristan und Isolde in the intended manner. Plus you have the option of watching it with either English intertitles or Japanese with English captions for a truly weeabootastic embrace of the unflinchingly nationalistic.

    That said, I've always preferred the short story. The film is well shot all things considered, but part of the beauty of Mishima is his eye for detail - to the point that I find he spoils me rotten, and it takes a bit to adjust back to other authors after I finish one of his books.

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    The worst part was he kept getting more serious because he bought into Schopenhauer's almost comical elevation of music above all other forms of art. It's like a feedback loop where everything gets more and more unironically over the top.
     
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  4. Rogue_Ten

    Rogue_Ten Chosen One star 7

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    ill have to track down the criterion. i bet its one of the many youtube transfers anyways...

    yeah his greatest skill ultimately lies in the written word. i dont read japanese, so im always shocked when i finish reading one of his books how superior it is to the vast majority of english writers. its like, what must this have been like in the original japanese?

    edit: here's the film with the original score. this was probs what i originally watched a couple years ago anyways

     
  5. Rogue_Ten

    Rogue_Ten Chosen One star 7

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    apparently that other score was done by ethan embry's lil bro aaron, who i guess does indie rock. ima just re-score the film with Zedd tracks. i dont give a ****

     
  6. I Are The Internets

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    "Senate of composers" is the greatest description I have ever heard.
     
  7. duende

    duende Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    i thought boulez was the senate of composers
     
  8. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    did someone say Zedd?

     
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  9. poor yorick

    poor yorick Ex-Mod star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    Wagner is better than the other thing, but still not great. I think Zedd would be an improvement.
     
  10. Blithe

    Blithe Jedi Master star 4

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    I was kind of hoping this was going to be more about the fascists that are here in the JCC. :(
     
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  11. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    KK?
     
  12. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    He's definitely not the first one that comes to mind.
     
  13. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    He's no fascist. Using that label inappropriately is no better than the right calling Obama a socialist, as if they'd recognise one when they saw one.
     
  14. Blithe

    Blithe Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm always amused and fascinated by the ones who are seemingly unaware that they're fascists.
     
  15. I Are The Internets

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    No he's just misunderstood.
     
  16. Blithe

    Blithe Jedi Master star 4

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    No fascist would be as a big of a stickler on strict adherence to the Constitution and Bill of Rights as KK is.
     
  17. Mortimer Snerd

    Mortimer Snerd Force Ghost star 4

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  18. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    [face_worried]
     
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  19. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Cheney's no fascist, just a war profiteer. c'mon guys.
     
  20. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    Those who suffered under his modding would disagree.
     
  21. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    I worked with him Vivec...
     
  22. JoinTheSchwarz

    JoinTheSchwarz Former Head Admin star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Franco was pretty awesome because he was a fascist AND a Catholic zealot. He's definitely my fave.
     
  23. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    I'm sorry.
     
  24. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    Why? He was a good Senate mod.
     
  25. Rogue_Ten

    Rogue_Ten Chosen One star 7

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    jonah goldberg just stop

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    better


    well yah, a lot of fascist movements were built around a core of reactionary catholic identity
     
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