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Those two injuries are nothing vs Sion's countless deaths. The guy literally pulls himself back together with the force after being 'killed' in battle countless times for 40+ years. He literally pulls a Lasarus right after being killed again and again... he doesn't require greater skill to win in a duel, he can actually just Lasarus style rope-a-dope them till they tire and there is an opening to stab them with. The guy flat out is a Sith Zombie meets Berserker meets tracker, so he's a hunter not a skeemer... his only cares about killing Jedi and his master (Darth Revan's former master btw).

Here is the quote on his injuries from wookieepedia

He literally is the opposite of Plagueis in many respects, he could only save himself from death since but not others, his power was purely instictual and not gained through wisdom of any sort. Ironic that after all that he died by pulling a Padme... just losing the will to live.

 

Fantasy is used here like it is one homogeneous thing and does not consist of various different tropes and elements of which some are better suited for SW than others. Just because say, you're opposed to time travel, doesn't mean you are opposed to all the fantasy elements.

I would like to see some clever new force techniques, for instance. Force projections or force healing for instance. The force use being influenced by the surrounding. Jedi who can survive without eating or drinking for a while. The force being used to share memories.

There are so many possibilities besides those few that were mentioned 1000 times on this forum it almost makes my head explode.

 

People in real life sometimes survive having their bottom half blown off. It wasn't a vertical slice or a beheading. http://www.today.com/id/26834245/#.UwBx9oV5JcM

 

Uh, no... he's an alien. Not just a guy with tattoos and horns glued to his head cause he wants to impress some one Sidious. Its our job as an audience in Sci-fi/Fantasy to accept that just cause the actor has body paint and horns glued to his head that he's not really human but anatomically different than us, since currently we're limited to human actor, muppets, or cgi lifeforms... the later two are limited. The very fact that he has actual horns growing out of his head is all they need to inform us he could be even more anatomically different than us since he's visually different, so its not a deus ex machina cheat (for anatomical reasons anyhow). In other words, they already informed us he was anatomically different.

What you're asking for is telling us he's different with throwaway lines, which usually just ruin the surprise that it will matter in a moment. Best just to show he's different, no need to inform us Bith have only one lung then have them get shot in that lung and get thrown into a bacta tank for weeks as a result. Why cause its not a natural conversation to have before said injury. Best just to have an ignorant human companion needing a medical explanation from the medical droid (besides 'she lost the will to live' ) because their is countless species in Star Wars and I don't want to watch a documentry, I want to live in the present where the story telling belongs and find out naturally how the species differ beyond visually once it matters, if I get the info before hand it will only spoil what is to come since I'll be ready for it rather than just simply experiancing the story. This is Star Wars not Star Trek, I don't want detailed theories of why almost every species is humaniod and talk of green blood. Put another way: Show, don't tell. Star Wars is an adventure that involves magc, not a logic debate and doctors was main characters telling us every minor difference betweeen pointy eared humaniod and the humanoid with ridges on his skull. Id much rather have two shocked humans hearing from the medical droid Bith have one lung after he's in the hospital and therefore he's critically injured remembering once again that their friend is different, than knowing before hand he has only one lung and just waiting for that to play into the plot sometime in the next two hours.

 

Never even thought about who would be voicing him, but yeah Brent Spiner is damn awesome on many levels. Would be great to see him as the Inquisitor.

 

http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=13152

 

Oh. My. Lawd.

Are you honestly trying to attach real physiology to the science fiction/fantasy that is Star Wars? Can you imagine how lame Star Wars would be if we started picking it apart with real science? Not to mention that you are assuming that George Lucas, Dave Filoni and crew had not even considered how Maul survived.

 

I feel ya there.

 

This is one of those moments where I think it's important to step back and recognize that we're talking about movies that have sound in space. Best not to take the science too seriously in this universe.

 

And yet all those posts between there and here...

 

Yeah I forgot about that post, but it does seem somewhat at odds with the arguments you've been making. I guess everyone draws their own lines differently.

 

People who apply anatomy to SW are funny individuals.

 

I'm not surprised.

It has already been confirmed after all.

For those too lazy to click on the link:

Pablo Hidalgo: @VictorBarnab we try! Some just don't want to hear it. Canon is only what's on the screen - Episodes I - VI, TCW and what's to come.

 

We attach real physiology to fantasy movies all the time. If the villain is beheaded for instance we expect him to die which he usually promptly does - just like in real life.

 

Pardon me if this has been discussed, but re: injuries, when lightsabers cut through flesh, wasn't it said that they basically block off any of the veins and whatnot that would bleed?

 

Well we don't necessarily know where Maul's internal organs are. His brain could be in his foot for all we know.

 

Never forget Ponda Baba!

 

That arm probably contained his brain.

 

Ahh, yes, you are correct. I could've sworn I read that somewhere though.

 

It contained his artistic talent.