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ST Qui-Gon Jinn and the Sequel Trilogy

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Echo Base, Feb 24, 2014.

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  1. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Well, then it 'rhymes' perfectly since Obi Wan's final appearance was with a lightsaber to the gut.
     
  2. T-R-

    T-R- Chosen One star 5

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    The reason NOT to bring Hayden back as Anakin is because it would be ridiculous for a 25 year-old Anakin to be talking to his 62 year-old son.

    As far as Jinn goes, it wouldn't make sense to include him as a ghost because he can't manifest as a ghost per GL. In the Making of RotS book GL said the reason we only hear Jinn is because he isn't as accomplished as Kenobi or Yoda are when they use the trick.

    Which ties into what we saw (or didn't see) in the PT and the new Clone Wars episodes where Jinn is only a voice and tells Yoda that he can "complete what I could not." I bet it means ghosting.
     
  3. Darth PJ

    Darth PJ Force Ghost star 6

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    Clearly it didn't... given he was the one to discover how a Jedi retains identity after death.
     
  4. TtheForceHurts

    TtheForceHurts Jedi Master star 4

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    "I used to be on the Jedi Council like you, but then I took a Lightsaber to the gut..."
     
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  5. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Shelf of Shame Host star 9 VIP - Game Host

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    Liam Neeson is a huge geek it seems, so more Qui Gon in SW would be heavenly.
     
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  6. T-R-

    T-R- Chosen One star 5

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    In a spinoff I agree. In the ST, no way.
     
  7. plaidphoenix

    plaidphoenix Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Actually, his story ended with his corpse being roasted like a bag of marshmallows.
     
  8. Grand_Moff_Jawa

    Grand_Moff_Jawa Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    So he discovered life after death for a Jedi. Clearly, by the time the OT came around, Ben and Yoda and Anakin had also discovered it by then. That secret is already out. No need to delve into it now.
     
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  9. Darth PJ

    Darth PJ Force Ghost star 6

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    This isn't really a conversation about what should or will happen... it's speculative... it's about what COULD happen. If they want to bring back Qui-Gon/Liam Neeson, I think they can do it quite easily. At this stage I'd say it's a certainty that Yoda will return, but other than Yoda I think Qui-Gon would be the least jarring (given the possible continuity problems of bringing back Obi-Wan or Anakin).
     
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  10. Echo Base

    Echo Base Jedi Master star 4

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    Assuming the latest rumour of a twin turning to evil is true, how about this for a scenario:

    [Luke, distraught, is sitting alone some place, contemplating what to do.]
    QUI-GON [appears]: I, too, had a pupil who turned to evil. You learned compassion and saved your father. That is the key, the key to all, the key to the Force and to redemption.
    [They converse.]
     
  11. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    don't know if i can put this here but qui-gon's story will be resolved. SPOILERS FOR UPCOMING CLONE WARS EP.....

    qui- gon, dagobah and becoming one with the force will be addressed in the new lost missions episodes.

    i've never been a huge fan of the show but this looks great. these new and all the old eps will be available on netflix march 7th.
     
  12. Echo Base

    Echo Base Jedi Master star 4

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    Thanks for that. I have never watched the show (going to see the Clone Wars film soon).
     
  13. Mystery Roach

    Mystery Roach Chosen One star 4

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    I think it's good to start with the film, but don't let it influence your opinion of the show too much. It gets a lot better than that.
     
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  14. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    yeah i'm so glad they're coming to netflix so i can finally watch them all in order.
     
  15. Echo Base

    Echo Base Jedi Master star 4

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    Thanks. I know it has a bad reputation. I am going to just try to watch it with an open-mind, albeit with the knowledge it is aimed at kids. I wll probably watch it this coming weekend.
     
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  16. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 8

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    How to find the Whills?
     
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  17. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Shelf of Shame Host star 9 VIP - Game Host

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    Is that even part of the canon anymore?
     
  18. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 8

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    It's in the movie
     
  19. IBYM

    IBYM Jedi Knight star 1

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    There's only so many characters you can fit into a movie, perhaps an appearance in a spin off would be good.
     
  20. T-R-

    T-R- Chosen One star 5

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    I'm assuming you're talking about the Whills here. They weren't in any of the 6 movies.
     
  21. HankSolo

    HankSolo Jedi Master star 3

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    I could see him being mentioned in passing and even appear in the movie, but I think it brings up a lot of questions about why he wouldn't have appeared previously during the time of the OT.
     
  22. Echo Base

    Echo Base Jedi Master star 4

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    I was thinking more of Episode 9, as I said to bookend the series. I agree about not waniting too many characters crammed in, though.
     
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  23. blythe

    blythe Jedi Youngling

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    Also hoping that Liam Nesson would reprise his rule in the ST as QQJ,Personally he could be used to add depth to the concept of the force. Explaining the difference in the Unifying Force & The Living Force as Luke sets up shop. As one is about the potential future for example force visions helping tie in the next sequel movies or living in the moment like QQJ.

    But also a standalone would be great
     
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  24. yggdrasil311

    yggdrasil311 Jedi Master star 3

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    I'd like to see, at some point, a central point for a jedi to go to find solace or to speak with the "elders of the past" for guidance. A location they could go to speak with force ghosts that could help guide them, such as Dagobah being a location for extreme mental attuning. It would allow prior Force Ghosts to show up.
     
  25. blythe

    blythe Jedi Youngling

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    like a mortis style setting ? but without the Celestials
     
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