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Saga Suspension of disbelief

Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by Oberst Hans Landa, Mar 1, 2014.

  1. squir1y

    squir1y Jedi Master star 3

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    Obi-Wan plunges from the side of Tipoca City, unravels Jango's ripcord from his wrists, tosses it and it wraps around a beam and stops his fall. Granted, the abrupt stop would have ripped the Jedi's arms from his sockets, but when that was pointed out to me, my only response was: If it did, it would have ruined the movie. Some people just can't except that answer. Also you can't hear explosions, lasers, engines, seismic charges or you screaming in space, but the answer to that is simple: no one wants to watch a mute space battle! Logistics are for reality, not fantasy!
     
  2. Oberst Hans Landa

    Oberst Hans Landa Jedi Knight star 2

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    Chewbacca has no dandruff. [face_dunno]
     
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  3. squir1y

    squir1y Jedi Master star 3

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    He uses Head and Shoulders and Everything in Between for Wookiees. It works but you don't wanna see the drain stopper in the Falcon's fresher. Ewww...
     
  4. Garrett Atkins

    Garrett Atkins Jedi Knight star 4

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    The only excuse: It's Star Wars!
     
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  5. Tornado Wrangler

    Tornado Wrangler Jedi Padawan star 1

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    We get the cue that things are going to be different from reality right from the get go with the "galaxy far far away" thing. I don't think that "suspension of disbelief" really applies to fantasy. It's supposed to be unrealistic; that's what makes it fantasy. You don't have to suspend your disbelief because its not supposed to be believable.

    But as stated in the opening post, that doesn't mean the writers and filmmakers can do whatever they want and still have it be a good story. While the fantasy-universe doesn't have to be realistic, it does need to be internally consistent and logical. That is the fault that often plagues fantasy storytelling, including Star Wars at times
     
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  6. Darth_Nub

    Darth_Nub Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Moving to Saga
     
  7. scooper121s

    scooper121s Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Stormtrooper Armour being so weak

    Yoda lived to be EXACTLY 900 years old

    The Jedi order was killed off like little bitches
     
  8. SarlacsDinerParty

    SarlacsDinerParty Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I agree With DS here !! Most of what happens makes sense inside the framework.
     
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  9. Ittoogami

    Ittoogami Jedi Youngling

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    I can suspend my disbelief a lot, but one major point in the series were it is a bit too much is the ewok battle. They made the little fellows look like just too weak. I mean at least they could have given them some battle swords, obsidian knifes or whatever, but I can't see around that with those sticks and their little range there is no chance they would get through an storm trooper armor.
     
  10. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Sticks couldn't unless you get in between the joints or knock the helmets off. Dropping rocks on their heads will stop anyone. Using logs against the AT-ST's and having one that was commandeered by a Wookiee also helps.
     
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  11. Ananta Chetan

    Ananta Chetan Force Ghost star 5

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  12. Oberst Hans Landa

    Oberst Hans Landa Jedi Knight star 2

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  13. Cryogenic

    Cryogenic Force Ghost star 5

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    I don't think there's much, actually. I mean, it's interlocking strands of weirdness -- tell me, how can I extract one from the other?

    That said, flying into that asteroid-dwelling creature in TESB, then walking around in its esophagus / gut, is pretty out-there.

    Mind you, scale mirrors are everywhere in Star Wars. Big becomes small, small becomes big.

    Jar Jar is strange creature / tonal aberration No. 2. I guess TPM takes a lot of cues from TESB.

    We don't get to go inside Jar Jar's digestive system, though.

    Though, again, scale mirrors. [:D] [face_party] [face_peace] [face_whistling]
     
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  14. DRush76

    DRush76 Jedi Master star 4

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    You found this hard to believe, considering how their demise was set up? I found the idea of Anakin hunting down each Jedi, one by one, hard to swallow.
     
  15. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    That Palpatine could kill the 3 Jedi in ROTS in 10-15 seconds.
    2 of them didn't even do anything.
     
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  16. Cushing's Admirer

    Cushing's Admirer Chosen One star 7

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    They weren't given time to. Most of how that was done was to show how powerful Sidious was in Darkness and how ill-prepared/unsuspecting the Jedi were, anyway.
     
  17. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    I know Palpatine is extremely skilled and all that jazz and the Jedi were unprepared and all that but that was too much.
     
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  18. Lt.Cmdr.Thrawn

    Lt.Cmdr.Thrawn Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Actually, Battlestar Galactica and Gravity both have pretty awesome action scenes (of differing kinds) taking place with no sound. However, I do agree that if TIE fighters and the Falcon didn't make their respective sounds, there would definitely be a sensibility that would be lost.
     
  19. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Tell that to Superman and the Flash.
     
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  20. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Shelf of Shame Host star 9 VIP - Game Host

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    There is no sound in space!

    /thread
     
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  21. Garrett Atkins

    Garrett Atkins Jedi Knight star 4

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    I forgot about Anakin building C-3PO and Yoda being best buddies with Yoda.
     
  22. Bob Octa

    Bob Octa Jedi Knight star 2

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    Not a damn thing.

    However, if the Force, destiny, and otherworldly physics weren't tangible, important, and vital components of the saga then sure, there'd be quite a number of events I wouldn't be able to suspend disbelief for. But then it wouldn't be Star Wars.
     
  23. The_Phantom_Calamari

    The_Phantom_Calamari Force Ghost star 5

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    Yoda would have to become pretty good friends with himself, living alone on Dagobah for 20+ years. ;)
     
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  24. Garrett Atkins

    Garrett Atkins Jedi Knight star 4

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    Whoops, Chewbacca, lel.
     
  25. Darth Dnej

    Darth Dnej Jedi Master star 4

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    Well there's quite a bit of times where I suspend disbelief. These examples come to mind:
    • The Vote of No Confidence
    • Obi-Wan not using Force Speed to catch up to Darth Maul and Qui-Gon
    • Darth Maul being stupid and arrogant enough to let Obi-Wan hop up and cut him in half
    • Padme's disturbingly calm reaction to Anakin's Tusken Raider slaughter
    • The Jedi being stupid enough to use an unauthorized army from a conspiracy
    • Obi-Wan being taken out by Dooku and sustaining no serious injuries after being crushed by a balcony
    • The Horrendous Fighting Skills of Agen Kolar, Saesee Tinn, and Kit Fisto against Darth Sidious
    • Padme being shocked completely about Anakin's turn to the dark side
    • Obi-Wan lying so much to Luke
    • The Ewoks and the small rebel force defeating the Empire
     
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