ST Luke Skywalker's New (or Old) Jedi Order?

But, but Jeet Kune Do doesn't change how you fight to extreme levels like "how your hands at your hips instead of in front of your face". Basics like that remained because they work. So training people starting in childhood and not allowing attachments.......WORKED for thousands of years (and if Anakin is your case study.......its not a good argument for changing those rules), so who would Luke completely re-think some/so many fundemental elements of the Jedi?

 

Moraband

 

Wait...you're suggesting that Luke knew he was a Jedi since the beginning?! That he is a Time Lord?! Inconceivable!

 

Heard Kyle Newman on RFR this week saying of course the Jedi order wasn't rebuilt because Luke rejected Yoda and Obi Wan's telling him to kill Vader. I got the feeling hearing him talk about it he might have heard some of what I have, I'm sure he def has better sources

 

First, why the hell are you listening to RFR, did Jimmy Mac leave the show thus making it good?

Second, who cares what Kyle Newman has to say?

 

"I care."

 

Somebody got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.

 

Not at all

Jimmy Mac is a tool who is neither entertaining or knowledgeable, RFR won't be worth listening too until has 100% less Jimmy Mac.

And really who cares what Kyle Newman has to say about Star Wars?

 

OK, calm down.

 

Why do people get so angry about these people mentioned?

 

Why do people assume I'm angry?

 

...lol....you just state your opinions in a matter of fact fashion....guess folks take it as being curt or angry?

 

I'm hoping for an non-existent order. I mean, if there's no Sith threat, why have one? Especially since they started all the problems in the first place. When and if the Sith do re-emerge, then I say it makes sense for the New Republic to call for Luke Skywalker form a new one. But it makes sense if one doesn't exist prior to the events of the ST, though.

 

The reason that there was a Jedi Order for 1000 years before TPM.

 

Great post! I agree 100% with the idea that the Jedi would be better served by dealing with one's darkside more directly and assertively than just trying to repress it absolutely and deny it even exists.

My own idea for Luke's Order would be that they are allowed open romantic attachments, but perhaps not marriage. The problem comes down to who does the Jedi owe ultimate allegiance to? The spouse or the Order? As we saw with Anakin, having allegiance to someone other than the Order (self or spouse) can lead to selfish decisions -- or at least decisions that aren't in the interest of the Order (I'm not sure if that is always bad though).

There's probably not a perfect solution (although maybe Chiznuk's is the best), but maybe allowing attachments to exist in the open -- even lifetime attachments -- but disallowing marriage would be a compromise that works for the Order and the individual Jedi. That way the Jedi can experience a full emotional relationship with another being while also accepting a higher allegiance to the Order. What you do about kids, however, I have no idea. For some Jedi, that would be a necessary part of their emotional experience. But once you open the door to Force families, it seems like you're creating more possibilities for power struggles and disagreement.

Good luck, Luke, you're going to need it!

rezpen:

True or not, I think it's a fascinating idea that Luke didn't rebuild the Order because he became a total pacifist. I've pointed out before that the Jedi are not a pure lightside Order because of their militancy and willingness to commit violence. This doesn't make them bad, but it does open them to the criticism of pacifist Force users. How interesting if that's what became of Luke!

 

You think that the events on DS II were so shocking for Luke that he renounced violence altogether? That would make for interesting character development, but I wonder how well it would fit into a violent story like Star Wars. Luke shouldn't come off as a fool for making the choice.

 

Throwing down his lightsaber could very well have been a life-defining decision for Luke in terms of a move toward pacifism, however it also may be significant that he decided to pick it up again instead of leaving it on the DSII.

 

Yeah, that is a danger. You wouldn't want him to come off like Satine in TCW. One way that might work is if Luke does fight defensively as Qui-Gon talks about in TPM, or tries never to kill. Or it could be as simple as not restarting the Order. IDK, but it is an interesting idea.

It would be very easy for it to work as you say though. Luke ends up looking like his pacifism allows the galaxy to fall back into chaos.

What would you do to make it work Pevra?

Darth_Pevra

EDIT: I don't think Luke needs to be "shocked" into pacifism. It seemed to have worked better than violence.

 

it would be interesting if luke had spent years in seclusion, very rarely seeing anyone, so he could commune with the force. communicating with yoda, obi, etc, so he could be ready for whatever new threat would surely come. perhaps having leia or others send force sensitives to him like he was sent to yoda.

 

Would he be doing this on Dagobah since it has a powerful force presence?

 

He's too big* to live in that hut.

 

And Yoda was too smaller?

 

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...I really should pay attention more