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Discussions Your Personal Canon

Discussion in 'EU Community' started by WriterMan, May 27, 2014.

  1. lookameatbag

    lookameatbag Jedi Master star 4

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    Stories I see coexisting:

    Dawn of the Jedi
    Much of the Old Republic era
    Darth Bane books
    Jango Fett: Open Seasons
    Episode I- The Phantom Menace
    Outbound Flight
    Episode II- Attack of the Clones
    Republic Commando (Books and game)
    The Clone Wars (2002 video game)
    Clone Wars micro series (First 21 episodes)
    The Clone Wars (2008 cartoon, including all the unproduced episodes)
    Darth Maul: Son of Dathomir
    Dark Disciple
    Episode III- Revenge of the Sith
    Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader
    Ahsoka (Novel)
    Thrawn (Novel)
    Tarkin (Novel)
    Lords of the Sith
    A New Dawn
    Rebels
    Dark Forces
    Rogue One
    Episode IV- A New Hope
    Lost Stars
    All the new Marvel comics
    Rogue Squadron games
    Battlefront: Twilight Company
    Episode V- The Empire Strikes Back
    Shadows of the Empire
    Episode VI- Return of the Jedi
    The new Bloodline novel
    Sequel Trilogy and all the upcoming spin-offs

    Storys that wouldn't fit well into the new canon but can take plot points from:
    Darth Plagueis (Novel)
    Bounty Hunter video game
    The Force Unleashed
    Empire at War
    Galactic Battlegrounds
    Republic, Dark Times, Empire, and Rebellion comics
    Brian Wood's Star Wars run
    Truce at Bakura
    Thrawn Trilogy
     
  2. spicer

    spicer Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'm curious why you think these two can't fit in the new canon?
     
  3. DarthKuriboh

    DarthKuriboh Jedi Master star 3

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    Everything, including post NJO. The Denningverse never bothered me. Were the swarm wars great books? no, but they were okay. I enjoyed fate of the jedi and Legacy of the Force. I actually enjoyed Jacen's descent to the dark side as the only real option after captivity by Vergere and the Vong. I enjoyed Ben and Luke's journey together. I didn't enjoy Mara's death per say, but I can't say that she didn't die on her own terms.
     
  4. lookameatbag

    lookameatbag Jedi Master star 4

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    Since Gardulla the Hutt came back in TCW, I don't see Bounty Hunter as apart of the timeline since we see her eaten by her own krayt dragon. Though they could make adjustments to the story where everything besides Gardulla's demise still happened. Without the Vector comics, I can see Dark Times being apart of the new canon, liked Dass Jennir, so I wouldn't mind seeing him in the new canon.
     
  5. spicer

    spicer Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I've forgotten about Gardulla. As for Vector, as it is in Dark Times I think it can fit. The problem with fitting Vector in canon are the stories in Rebellion and Legacy. For example, IF Dark Times is brought into canon, there are two ways I can think of to deal with Vector: continue/conclude the story of Celeste from there and make it new, or just leave it at that. The second option wouldn't be a plot hole imo, as Celeste would be stranded on a desolate, insignificant moon in the middle of nowhere. Besides, the whole story of Vector was mainly about Celeste, and ultimately does not affect the outcome of Dark Times.
     
  6. SpecForce Trooper

    SpecForce Trooper Jedi Master star 4

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    -ImpCom simply isn't canon. Order 66 ends happy.
    -Storm Commandos are a part of the ISB.
    -These guys are actually ARC Troopers.
    -General Ferroda was under Anakin's Sector Army.
    -Lumiya was secretly Vader's apprentice (Starkiller 2.0), thus she's an official Sith Lord.
    -"Shadow Guard" was an informal nickname for the Sovereign Protectors.
    -Alpha-17 never went missing; He made it back to Corrie safely.
    -TCW and the rest of "Canon" aren't canon.
    -Except for Rogue One.
    -Rogue One was awesome.
    -TFU II also never happened.
    -The Empire was the dominant power after the 2nd Imperial Civil War. Sorta like America after WWII. The Galactic Alliance would be France.
    -Inquisitorius became the Order of Imperial Knights at some point in the Remnant's history.
    -The New Sith Wars would have been more "realistic".
     
  7. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The conflict in Legacy should be called the third galactic civil war, honestly I have no idea why it's called the third imperial civil war?

    Personal bits of head canon-after TFU II Vader escapes and the Marek Clone, Eclipse and Kota are all killed in the process, the empire conducted operations of a covert/propaganda nature against the GA after FOTJ with the Imperial Mission being the culmination of its efforts.

    Nihl, Talon, and Saarai survived Legacy Volume 2 and fled deeper into hiding.

    The Baneite Sith engaged in master apprentice relationships-Gean and Gravid for example setting a precedent for Caedus and Tahiri, and Cade and Talon.

    The Nagai fell into civil war sometime during the post crucible era-hence Nihl formerly being a warlord.

    In the waning decades of the galactic alliance, interstellar and interplanetary rivals became common-Rhommamool and Ossarian sort of local conflicts. The Empire took advantage of this as an offerer of stability.

    The GA in the 80 years before the Sith imperial war was always bustling with under the surface intrigue and instability. One of the consequences of the SCGW and the Caedus/Niathal Coup was a increased distrust in the military. Admirals and Generals were less and less competent after the heroes of the Galactic Civil War and Vong War passed away and the major figures of the Second Galactic Civil War retired from public life.

    The Chiss kept strong ties with the remnant and the empire of the hand which served a bridge between the Empire and Chiss creating a sort of kinship between them. The Chiss also gained hegemony over the western galactic quadrant defeating the "hundred terrors", subduing slavers, malicious species, and various sundry little empires while containing through rather harsh means the Mnggal-Mnngal.

    The Hutts, and Hapans maintained their neutrality in the post crucible decades with Hapes retreating into some renewed isolationism before Queen Allana's Ascension and the Hutts maintaining a fierce grip in the underworld.

    The various minor powers such as the centrality struggled to maintain their independence-few were lucky to do so, even powerhouses such as the Corporate Sector were reintegrated.

    Luke died in 81 ABY at 100 years old with Leia dying a few years after.

    All the generation born between 20 BBY and 30 or so ABY was dead by 120 ABY at the very latest.

    During the first five or so millennia of the republic there were other conflicts fought against hostile aliens, recalcitrant groups such as the Tion and intercorporate power struggles for colonies and resources.

    The New Sith Wars had a combined death toll of day at least 2 Quadrillion from battle, disease, isolation, crime waves and so on. A millennia long conflict with multiple conflicts within and candorian plague and so on was rightfully called the republic dark ages with the Sith ascendant yet in constant inner strife, the Jedi becoming chancellors for centuries straight and ruling whole worlds and systems as near barons. During this time there was an abundance of piracy, mass migration and all sorts of trauma.

    The Baneite Sith worked to string various anti-republic and anti-Jedi movements along in the decline of the republic. Groups and leaders that the Baneites feared might escape their control were put down, and various unsundry aspects of galactic society from criminals to any and all terrorist groupings and movements were at least indirectly under the Sith's influence.
     
  8. SpecForce Trooper

    SpecForce Trooper Jedi Master star 4

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    The conflict in Legacy is known as the 2nd Imperial Civil War. I think it's a perfect name. During the comic it might seem more like a 3rd Galactic CivWar, but you need to remember that the Alliance was quite insignificant in the war; It was really an inter-Imperial conflict. As far as Krayt and his cronies were concerned, they were fighting a breakaway faction of the Empire; The Alliance were barely a nuisance.
     
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  9. Anakin.Skywalker

    Anakin.Skywalker Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    My cannon consists of and only of:

    The Phantom Menace
    Attack of the Clones
    Revenge of the Sith

    (Rogue One's not too bad)

    A New Hope
    The Empire Strikes Back
    Return of the Jedi.
     
  10. Evening Star

    Evening Star Force Ghost star 4

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    I'm ok with the ST and I'm not gonna pretend it doesn't exist, but yeah, if I could choose: Episodes I-VI + RO.

    Edit: LOL I clicked on this thread thinking it's some other forum, so I should add I've never really been interested in the EU.
     
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  11. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    To the OP love your new image-big fan of the EMH!
     
  12. YoungSmitty2

    YoungSmitty2 Jedi Knight star 1

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    This is my list on personal canon for the old EU:

    Dawn of the Jedi
    Tales of the Jedi
    KOTOR (comics)
    Knights of the Old Republic I
    The Old Republic: Revan
    Knights of the Old Republic II
    Star Wars: The Old Republic (From Return--Knights of the Eternal Throne)
    The Darth Bane Trilogy
    Darth Plagueis
    Jedi--The Dark Side
    Jedi Apprentice (series)
    Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan: The Aurorient Express/Last Stand on Ord Mantell
    Maul: Lockdown
    Tales: Nameless
    Jedi Council: Acts of War
    Star Wars: Darth Maul (comics)
    Star Wars: Republic (comics; From Vow of Justice to Hidden Enemy)
    Darth Maul: Saboteur
    Cloak of Deception
    Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter
    Episode I: The Phantom Menace (novelization)/End Game
    Bounty Hunter
    Jango Fett: Open Seasons
    Rogue Planet
    Jedi Quest (series)
    Outbound Flight
    The Approaching Storm
    Episode II: Attack of the Clones (novelization)
    Boba Fett (series)
    The Clone Wars (video game)
    The Cestus Deception
    Clone Wars (micro-series): Chapter 6-7
    Republic Commando: Hard Contact
    Jedi: Mace Windu
    Jedi: Shaak Ti
    Shatterpoint
    Jedi: Aayla Secura
    Jedi: Count Dooku
    Republic Commando: Triple Zero
    Jedi: Yoda
    Republic Commando: True Colors
    Star Wars: Clone Wars (micro-series): Chapters 1--5/Chapters 8-21
    MedStar Duology
    Star Wars: General Grievous (comics)
    Yoda: Dark Rendezvous
    Obsession
    Brothers in Arms
    Labyrinth of Evil/Revenge of the Sith (novelization)/Order 66: A Republic Commando novel
    Kenobi (novel)
    Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader
    Star Wars: Purge (comic series)
    Star Wars: Dark Times (series)
    Darth Vader and the Lost Command
    Darth Vader and the Ghost Prison
    Darth Vader and the Ninth Assassin
    Coruscant Nights (series)
    The Last of the Jedi (series)
    The Last Jedi
    Darth Vader and the Cry of Shadows
    The Han Solo Trilogy
    The Force Unleashed
    Empire at War
    Death Star (novel)
    Extinction
    Star Wars: 1977
    Dark Forces
    Scoundrels
    Rebel Force (series)
    Allegiance
    Choices of One
    Empire/Rebellion (series)
    The Empire Strikes Back
    Shadows of the Empire
    Mara Jade: By the Emperor's Hand
    Return of the Jedi
    The Truce at Bakura
    Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II
    The X-Wing series
    The Courtship of Princess Leia
    Tatooine Ghost
    The Thrawn Trilogy
    Dark Empire Trilogy/Crimson Empire I & II
    The Jedi Academy Trilogy
    Jedi Academy: Leviathan
    Jedi Outcast
    Crimson Empire III
    Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
    The Hand of Thrawn Duology
    Star Wars: Union
    Junior Jedi Knights (series)
    Young Jedi Knights (series)
    The New Jedi Order (series)
    Legacy (series)
     
  13. xezene

    xezene Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    =D=

    Pretty much agree on it all. For me, that's Star Wars and has everything in it that I love. :) I'd also throw in Survivor's Quest and a few more from the Bantam era.
     
  14. DARTH_MU

    DARTH_MU Jedi Master star 4

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    Lost Tribe of the Sith stories by John Jackson Miller
    Yoda: Dark Rendezvous
    AC Crispin's Han Solo Trilogy
    Lost Stars
    Aaron Allston's Wraith Squadron Trilogy
    NJO upto Balance Point
    LOTF upto Exile
    Heir to the Empire
    Dark Force Rising
    The Last Command
    I Jedi
    Children of the Jedi
    Dark Saber
    Specter of the Past
    Vision of the Future
    Survivor's Quest
    Vector Prime
    Dark Nest Trilogy
    FOTJ
     
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  15. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    How long does everyone have Allana ruling from the Throne of Balance?
    Making my own version of the post NJO series universe and might make her born a couple years before my own version of DNT and start her rule at 50 ABY at age 18.
    Not going to do the whole Sith-Imperial War thing because of having the Vong into the story the whole time, but the Sith do attack 130 ABY or so.
    So how close should I push the Throne of Balance rule to 130 ABY? 115 ABY? 120 ABY?
     
  16. DARTH_MU

    DARTH_MU Jedi Master star 4

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    I'd say age 25 (or 21). For a mature Allana.

    I'd say give her at least 25 to 30 year reign.

    No longer though.
     
  17. SiouxFan

    SiouxFan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Why so short? Not too many people die at 50.
     
  18. DARTH_MU

    DARTH_MU Jedi Master star 4

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    Assassinations and coups and just tired and fake death.
    The Sith would probably wound up their propaganda machine and tell the masses how evil their ruler is. And the Hapans would probably feel that she's not pretty enough.

    Seriously though, I am trying to avoid Allana being a Mary Sue.
     
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  19. The Ganner

    The Ganner Jedi Knight star 1

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    My Personal Universe Is THE Star Wars universe AKA the universe before the buyout.

    (though I do really like some new stuff, its just not the same imo)
     
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  20. ObiWanKnowsMe

    ObiWanKnowsMe Jedi Master star 4

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    My Canon will grow as I read more but as of now it is:
    -Revan book
    -Darth Bane trilogy
    -Darth Plagueis book
    -Prequel trilogy
    -The Clone Wars TV series
    -original Trilogy
    -Thrawn Trilogy
    -Jedi Academy Trilogy (recently began reading and already like it!)
     
  21. Duguay

    Duguay Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    For me, SW has a multiverse. Some stories may be legends; some in-universe and some out of universe, but even those that are legend or conventionally canon, both happen (let's say, because SW is an alien galaxy with strange characteristics, so legends are more real in SW than they are IRL). The physical laws of the galaxy are different, so there's sound in space, movement through space is different, and characters can survive with a breather for environmental conditions (Han and Leia in the "cave" in the asteroid field. Time passes differently in different parts of the galaxy (Luke training on Dagobah while Han and Leia avoid the Empire).

    Everything I've read or watched counts, even if it's categorized in different aspects of the multiverse. So the original Marvel comics have their own narrative space, and the Zahn/Stackpole/Bantam stories are another version. Obviously the new EU is building yet another 'verse. The Clone Wars TV show connects some of these realities, to a certain extent.
     
  22. My Canon:
    Dawn of the Jedi (comics)
    Tales of the Jedi (comics)
    KOTOR (comics)
    KOTOR I
    KOTOR II
    The Darth Bane trilogy
    Darth Plagueis
    The Jedi comics
    The Republic comics
    Bounty Hunter videogame
    Boba Fett (origin books)
    Republic Commando
    The Clone Wars comics and novels
    The Clone Wars (2003)
    The Clone Wars (2008) (Only some chapters that do not contradict the EU and Ahsoka dies during Order 66 )
    The Clone Wars videogame
    Battlefront II
    The Dark Lord Trilogy: (Labyrinth of Evil , Revenge of the Sith novel and The rise of Darth Vader)
    The Dark Times comics
    Coruscant Nights(books)
    Kenobi (book and the new movie)
    The Last of the Jedi (books)
    The Han Solo trilogy (books)
    The Force Unleashed (Only the first game with light side ending)
    Empire at War
    Dark Forces (game)
    Lethal Alliance (game)
    Rogue One (movie) (The planes that found Jyn and Cassian is only the last part of the planes that find Kyle and Rianna)
    Rebellion and Empire comics
    Star Wars (the new marvel comics)
    Shadow of the Empire (game and book)
    Episode VI (movie and ending of the saga)

    Alternative Timeline 1
    What If after Episode VI EU version:
    Mara Jade (comics)
    X-Wing (comics)
    Luke Skywalker and the Shadow of Mindor
    Jedi Prince
    The Thrawn Trilogy
    Dark Forces II
    Dark Empire
    Jedi Academy Trilogy
    Star Wars Jedi Outcast
    Star Wars Jedi Academy (game)
    The Youngs Jedi (books)
    The New Jedi Order (books)
    The Legacy of the Force (books)
    Crosscurrent and Riptide (books)
    Fate of the Jedi (books)
    Crucible (book)

    Alternative Timeline 2
    What If after Episode VI: Disney version
    Star Wars Shattered Empire
    Battlefront II (EA)
    Aftermatch (books)
    Poe Dameron (comics)
    Bloodlines (book)
    The Force Awakens
    The Last of The Jedi
     
  23. SpecForce Trooper

    SpecForce Trooper Jedi Master star 4

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    Time is subjective in our universe too. A black hole can cause time to be very different. I wouldn't be surprised if a hypothetical white hole was the cause of Obi-Wan's age in ANH.
     
  24. cookeycat

    cookeycat Jedi Knight star 2

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    In my personal canon a nonsense called "Ahsoka Tano" does not exist.