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Lit Influence of French Comics on Star Wars

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Leo Perutz, Dec 17, 2015.

  1. Leo Perutz

    Leo Perutz Jedi Youngling

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    I am finding out more and more about the influence French comics from the 70s and early 80s had on the original trilogy (and even the prequels). If you want to know what I mean, watch this:

    I think that the comics of creators like Moebius, Mezieres and Druillet must have had an influence on Lucas and the designers Star Wars. Some of the resemblances in that clip are simply too close to be a mere accident.

    Do you agree? Do you maybe have more examples?
     
  2. Dr. Steve Brule

    Dr. Steve Brule Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I know that European comics had a big influence on both the plot and art of Dark Empire.
     
  3. Taalcon

    Taalcon Chosen One star 4

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    Moebius did some early concept work on Willow. Lucas was clearly a fan. I'm not sure what if any of his work made it to final design in that film, though.
     
  4. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    If you want to check out Valerian and Laureline, Cinebooks have translated Volumes 1-10.
     
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  5. Leo Perutz

    Leo Perutz Jedi Youngling

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  6. jaoblias

    jaoblias Jedi Knight star 1

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    The Dark Horse Droids comics take a lot of stylistic inspiration from Franco/Belgian humour comics, especially Ian Gibson's art in the Rebellion arc.
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  7. Ackbar's Fishsticks

    Ackbar's Fishsticks Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Oh, wow.

    French-language comics are my childhood, but for whatever reason most of those I read weren't science fiction heavy - Blake et Mortimer, and Thorgal, are the only ones I can think of that were, and even then sci-fi was only one of the many genres they drew on.

    I'm going to have to track down those other ones now...
     
  8. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    You want to look at these guys:

    http://www.cinebook.co.uk/coming_soon.php?osCsid=df6e3b1993904e4d6396a9f85c82ba2b
     
  9. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I should point out that the Heir to the Empire comic adaptation was illustrated by the French graphic novel artists Olivier Vatine and Fred Blanchard. I absolutely love their style, though most galleries of their work contain a great deal of nudity, so I can't link them here. But you can see their HttE work in the pages linked here.

    It also bears noting that Nelvana's work on the Star Wars Holiday Special and Droids cartoons was greatly influenced by Moebius. A deliberate homage, according to commentary by one of the artists, Kevin Davies (here).
     
  10. Leo Perutz

    Leo Perutz Jedi Youngling

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    Thanks for the links! Good stuff.
     
  11. Finn the Human

    Finn the Human Jedi Knight

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    Oh, that's really interesting. I didn't know that Star Wars was inspired by so many comics.(I just knew about the Jack Kirby's Fourth World).
    Thorgal is the only french comic that i ever read, but i'm gonna look foward these sci-fi comics too. :)
     
  12. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    As you enjoyed Thorgal, check out XIII, Largo Winch, Western, Wayne Shelton and Lady S - they're all written by Jean Van Hamme who also did Thorgal.
     
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  13. Finn the Human

    Finn the Human Jedi Knight

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    Thank you [face_praying]
    I will definitively check this :)
     
  14. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    Bear in mind there's about 50-60 albums there if you check them all!

    Use Cinebook for translated editions too.
     
  15. Echo Base

    Echo Base Jedi Master star 4

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    I am looking forward to the Valerian film. The first teaser trailer is on YouTube now. They are taking a huge risk to release it at this time against a resurrected Star Wars franchise. I hope it doesn't go the way of John Carter.

    I have read some of the comics in the past. They helped me when I was learning French.
     
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  16. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    I really liked the look of the trailer - very much Luc Beeson with no restraints. If they can keep the distinctive style, it should be enough to make it stand out.
     
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  17. Echo Base

    Echo Base Jedi Master star 4

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    I understand some people are concerned about the casting. I haven't seen the leads in other works, so I can't comment.

    My own concern is about commercialisation: this is going to be the most expensive French film ever made and, to recoup that money, the production company is obviously going to have to do all they can to make sure this film appeals in major markets like the USA and China. To do so, I hope they don't turn it into a generic action film that loses its distinctive "Frenchness". :(
     
  18. Echo Base

    Echo Base Jedi Master star 4

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    Sad this thread has had so few updates. :(

    Nevertheless, I am a bit disillusioned with the Valerian film based on what I have seen from the preview materials. The second trailer was very gun-heavy and the official site indicates the film is a more militaristic take on the story: "Mister" Valerian is now "Major" Valerian and instead of Galaxity's Spatio-Temporal Bureau, he seems to be a member of the military. The third trailer was a little less gun-centric though but I wish it were more faithful to the comics. Depending on what I hear over the next month, I may or may not see it when it screens at the cinema.
     
  19. Maythe14thBeWithYou

    Maythe14thBeWithYou Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm interested in Valerian due to its supposed influence on so much. It looks cool, c'mon. So whether it is akin will have to be seen though obviously. I'm not at all familiar with the source material so it'll be a real treat.
     
  20. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    Yeah, I respect people concerned about the original source material, but all I really care about is if it's as fun as The Fifth Element.

    And heck, even if it isn't, the visuals alone are probably worth it. I wish more sci-fi blockbusters had the guts to look this eye-poppingly outlandish. (Coming back to the main topic, there's actually a whole can of worms to open up here in regards to the PT, though honestly I'm not sure if the main topic is even a real thing or not).
     
  21. jafo

    jafo Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    Well, it was a European who drew it
     
  22. Landb

    Landb Jedi Knight star 1

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    I'd read or watch "Jodorowsky's Star Wars"

    I mean, it'd probably make almost 0 sense and traumatize any child who witnessed it, but I'm sure it'd be entertaining.
     
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  23. Maythe14thBeWithYou

    Maythe14thBeWithYou Jedi Master star 4

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    The Fifth Element was cool! Visually it looks awesome so I'll check it out but I'll really have no clue as to how it stays true to the source material and that isn't a concern really. All I want is a good movie.
     
  24. Nehru_Amidala

    Nehru_Amidala Force Ghost star 7

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    I'm guessing this does not involve Tintin, right?
     
  25. Echo Base

    Echo Base Jedi Master star 4

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