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Here's a mentality I don't understand:

"i know racism is really bad and my behavior is actually really bad but boy are those social justice warriors loud and annoying so i'm just gonna go full racist out of spite and drop lots of n-bombs on twitter and send rape threats to random women i've never met"

Somehow SJWs are justification for going to the total opposite end of the spectrum into the depths of human filth.

"you told me to check my privilege!? how dare you?! **** you you **** ***** feminazi i hope you get raped to death by the dirty mexicans who took my job also black ppl are lazy i'm voting for trump now"

Yeah. This is an actual mindset and the actual defense for it.

Oh, and sorry for the nasty youtube speech. Just used for demonstrative purposes. You can edit it however you want, Tracy.

 

Shorter version: "They made us do it." Or perhaps "Look at what you made us do."

 

Btw I think "the truth is always in the middle" is a poor philosophy, regardless of where the poles are located.

 

The idea that "the truth is always in the middle" being wrong is far greater than politics though. If you study philosophy as a subject you come across the reasons that this is a failing idea. This being wrong predates America.

 

More madness from Mango Mussolini

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trump-apos-ve-apos-done-070553071.html

In a wide ranging interview with Reuters, the president also claimed that his administration "had done more in five months than practically any president in history."

 

Yeah, more damage to the presidency, that is.

 

You know he has kind of a shaky familiarity with grammar. What he meant to say was that he's accomplished more than every president, combined. Every time he wakes up in the morning the stock market's doing a little bit better and a third of registered voters stand up a little bit straighter; he's got Congress lined up to apologize for his Tweets so he never has to. He's likely to get another Supreme Court nominee who will steer the rule of law just a little bit more Tea Partyward. He can order a cheeseburger up to his bed in the middle of the night and no one can tell him no.

 

At the start of the year, I remember someone in this thread predicating (after Trump) the US Presidency would be:

a) extremely authoritarian

or

b) purely ceremonial.

 

The lawyer apologised for sending it so confirmed. Also apparently the wall needs to be clear so that Americans can spot bags of drugs before they are hit in the head.

 

I really shouldn't have to expect the phrase "The president lashed out on twitter today..." but these are the times we live in. Absurd, backward, and flat-out wrong times.

 

https://www.kidrockforsenate.com/

I'm in!

 

So now it turns out that there was a former Soviet spy at the Trump Jr./Russian lawyer meeting. Must have slipped his mind before now.

Does anyone outside the true believers of Trumpland really believe that nothing happened at that meeting, or that Trump wasn't aware of it at the time?

On a different (but very related note in political terms) note, economic indicators are trending downward. For all their loyalty to Trump, if the economy goes down in a perceptible way, previously loyal people will turn on Trump. Not altogether, of course, but there will be more defections than people thought possible.

 

Late reply, but FOX news has been steadily pushing the "There's nothing wrong with colluding with a foreign government" for the past several days and if you go to any right wing sites they're all parroting their talking points. The difference is that since right wingers now see Russia as an "ally" ("Putin's a strong leader why wouldn't we want to ally ourselves with him in the war against Islam?") while the rest of the sane world views them as an adversary, so "What's wrong with accepting help from an ally?"

(On a side note, I find it hilarious the right wing is now all pro-Russia when they were the ones pushing McCarthyism during the Cold War).

And you're right, nothing's going to happen. The Washington Post did an article about why the GOP will not touch Trump no matter how bad it gets, due to his 85-90% support among Republicans: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...g-impeached-this-year/?utm_term=.9b40617d43e6

 

Yeah, that Washington Post article was a real eye-opener for me. I'm not sure what exactly we who are left-of-center can do at the present moment (other than join you lot in Canada, haha), but I know the GOP will forever be useless in taking any real action against Trump.

 

ITT The Red Scare.

A SPECTRE OF SOVIET COMMUNISM HAUNTS US

 

Well, the lies do keep on coming. Unfortunately, as long as Republicans are in control of Congress, nothing will happen to Trump.

 

There's an important story today in the Times about the reverence for Putin and what he represents to many on the right: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/14/us/politics/putin-trump-conservatives.html?_r=0

The view of strength being a virtue above almost everything else, along with obedience to authority, can't be underestimated with regard to Russia in general and Putin in particular. This is primarily about authoritarianism, which has always been present in the United States. However, it had never taken control of the federal government before now. It's supported, of course, by tens of millions of Americans who are either sympathetic to this view or actively share them. Far from being repelled by accusations of collusion, I would say that a significant number of Trump supporters are unmoved because they see it as either a good thing or not something to be concerned about.

This strain of authoritarianism has always been around in Christianity, and particularly in the United States. It's not really about Christianity, of course. It's about obedience to authority and power, with all power belonging to the "right" people. Christianity is just a costume for this ideology.

I don't see them being particularly concerned about Putin or Russia. He's doing what many of them want to see here.

 

From what I've seen on commentary on Brietbart et al. the right wing admires Putin because he represents what so many of them look up - white male Christian patriarchy where people of colour/women/GLBTQ/Muslims are kept in their place. They think allying with Russia is great because then "the West has an ally in the war against Islam". Putin also hates feminists, GLBTQ people, Muslims and people of colour just like them so bonus!

 

This direct confrontation may have been inevitable at some point in our country's history. It had always been going on, but usually under the cover of other things, since it wasn't considered acceptable to be upfront about it (at least in the postwar era). It's authoritarian Christianity vs. a more secular worldview. Now it's out in the open.