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Lit MACLUNKY -- The Lit Forum Maclunky Thread, v3

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Point Given , Sep 12, 2015.

  1. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    If you're burnt out on the gameplay then ACO only really brings forward free running/parkour and some (not all) of the stealth mechanics. It still has a lot of Black Flag's DNA but it's an open world action RPG first and foremost. I feel comparisons to The Witcher 3 and the 3D Zeldas are appropriate.

    If you're burnt out on the AC setting and mythology, then fair enough... but I'm fairly sick of all that too and it hasn't been bothering me so far. Maybe I'll have changed my mind by the end if it starts being more obtrusive.

    Not that sale waiting is a ever a bad thing.
     
  2. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    The thing you need to understand here is that Americans are pretty stupid.
     
  3. vncredleader

    vncredleader Force Ghost star 5

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    Well I mean if they gave the slightest damn about preventing mass murder they would accept even just some more gun control in the first place. . No rationalizing with people who put their guns above other people's lives, over freaking children's lives
     
  4. fett 4

    fett 4 Chosen One star 5

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    But many of them call themselves Christians even though it’s literally the opposite of what Christ reached !!!
     
  5. vncredleader

    vncredleader Force Ghost star 5

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    Yeah it's sad how many people have double standards. I was raised Catholic and among my very catholic parents one is more and more pro gun control and the other is just oblivious to his hypocrisy
     
  6. fett 4

    fett 4 Chosen One star 5

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    Thou shall not kill - Do good those that hate you - if somone strikes you on the right cheek, offer him the left - Owning a gun and threatening war for anyone trying to do a ban is the complete opposite to that though. I mean how do they justify that to themselves ???
     
  7. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    The combination of political corruption* and misinformation = sensible gun laws are virtually a dead letter. Even in states that would be in favor, the Supreme Court balance is not amenable.

    We have to change gun culture before any legislative solutions will be possible.





    * (in the routine lobbying sense, not the more severe self-dealing sense)


    Missa ab iPhona mea est.
     
  8. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    I'm all in favor of gun control but is the problem the guns?

    I mean this seriously as the issue I'm asking is....is the reason this doesn't happen in other countries because they don't have guns or because they don't have people randomly committing mass murder?

    I'm wondering about the psychology behind it.

    Why?

    Just why?

    What is wrong with the American spirit?
     
  9. fett 4

    fett 4 Chosen One star 5

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    That I can’t answer but I know that something needs to be tried regardless. Simply doing nothing and waiting for the next massacre (which will happen) is not an option
     
  10. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    Oh, I agree, but I also think the killer's motives need to be examined and find out what is simmering under the surface.

    After all, McVeigh used bombs not guns.
     
  11. vncredleader

    vncredleader Force Ghost star 5

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    Oh for sure. We need to pay attention to the ever growing number of white terrorists in America. This is a cultural problem that keeps simmering cause all the focus is being put on non white terror attacks. Don't get me wrong those are tragedies as well, but so many people use them as an excuse to push their isolationist rhetoric while paying attention to the actual statistical most likely group or a terrorist to be from in America would end up undoing said people's end goals.

    In terms of what the psychological problem is; I feel like the guns themselves are a massive part of it. So much of American culture built around, whether people want to admit it or not, white elitism and jingoism. You get these a-holes who think a gun is a remote control for life and that there are no consequences are that way because from an early age they think they are more important than other people and that having a weapon is their right and that it can fix anything.

    We give people the ability to end a life, several lives with just the press of a button, and then act surprised when people who have been around guns their whole lives and have always pushed other people around end up using them in acts of terror. To my point on these people thinking they are better than others look at just the shooting this week, the guy was a wife beater. The kinds of people who do these things are the type who are never taught that violence has consequences or at least that there are no consequences for them. Giving someone a weapon from an early age just ingrains into them that guns fix their problems.

    How many of the recent shooters picked up how to use guns within 5 years or so of their shooting? I am honestly wondering cause most of them seem to be the type who have been raised with firearms and almost all of them are straight white males. You have people who are given advantages their whole lives and have always been told firearms fix things, put two and two together and you get a shooter.
     
  12. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    Years back, I read an interview with Donald Sutherland that perhaps gives an answer:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/...tial-American-film-since-I-cant-remember.html

    Now, the western frontier is centuries gone but I think that mentality is the root cause. It's still around, it didn't die in response to civilisation, it just went deeper.
     
  13. Gamiel

    Gamiel Chosen One star 9

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    I think there is something to that, since so many movies and TV-series are about people taking the law in their own hands or lawmen ignoring protocol or quiting "to do what's right" and the story threat them as being in the right for doing so. American media more often than not tell us that violence is the answer, not talking or having a better system caring for people with problems
     
  14. fett 4

    fett 4 Chosen One star 5

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    That’s a good suggestion but Australia has a similiar frontier culture. You have outlaws like Ned Kelly etc who are famous. Australia is basically the US louder and younger brother. They had 1 mass shooting and after that they put in gun control no questions asked. It was even a Conservative Government that did it.
     
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  15. CT-867-5309

    CT-867-5309 Chosen One star 7

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    The "blaze of glory" idea just disturbs me now, after seeing the results in real life so many times. It's amazing how many people think even Jedi should make sure to kill a lot of people before they die. I see it all the time here. "Such and such Jedi didn't kill enough before they died. They went out like a punk".
     
  16. fett 4

    fett 4 Chosen One star 5

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    I was disturbed by the narrative that was put out. First it was that the killer got shot by somone else therefore 26 people being killed is ok because the good guys have guns and can shoot the bad guy. I literally had people telling me that those in the Church should have been carrying weapons because of it ! That’s since turned out to be false and that the killer took his own life.

    It’s now moved on to his discharge which has shown that he was refused a concealed carry permit not a refusal to have a gun itself. It’s also a distraction from the obvious about how easy it is to get an Assault Rifle regardless.

    Then there is Trump babbling on about Mental Health even though he made it easier for those with those problems (following this narrative) to obtain weapons.

    It’s just strange to me as it’s all window dressing on the main point and frankly quite sinister as it’s a deliberate distraction
     
  17. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'm not gonna be made to feel bad about enjoying the Ganner, sorry.
     
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  18. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    White male terrorism in America comes in a variety of forms but this seems to be of the Charles Whitman variety.

    I.e. the sense of unfulfillment and self-hatred which lets loose on the people around him.
     
  19. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    Quite and when you're being out-done on sensibility by a culture as macho as Oz, that's a problem all right.

    Maybe the difference is that too many Americans see the US Constitution as holy writ that cannot be tampered with, whereas in Oz, it was merely a law change. Plus the fact that they were so disgusted by what had been done the consensus was 'no more'. (Go on, someone post a GIF).

    In the US? 20 kids get killed and it's deemed 'the price of freedom'. Strangely it never goes further, the freedom to be shot? To be in pain? To die before your time?
     
  20. vncredleader

    vncredleader Force Ghost star 5

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    So Brian Michael Bendis just left Marvel and signed on an exclusive deal at DC!!! I am still flabbergasted. I mean this is Kirby leaving Marvel or DC levels of crazy
     
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  21. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    It is, isn't it? Really interesting development.

    I think Marvel are stuffed, even more than they were.
     
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  22. vncredleader

    vncredleader Force Ghost star 5

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    The industry just keeps getting more and more interesting. This certain shakes things up from where I thought they where going. After King and his total freelance paid by the page deal I was thinking that we would start getting away from exclusives. Makes me wonder if Bendis and Marvel fought a bit
     
  23. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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  24. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    Ah, Uli, you rarely disappoint.
     
  25. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Ha. Talk to my ex.


    ...

    Wait that came out wrong.
     
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